the "who will kill itachi" thread

Alright, its something that's been on my mind, and folf inspired me to make a topic about it....
who will be the one to kill (or at least defeat to the point of him no longer being a villian) itachi?

Of course i'm expecting most of you to say sasuke, and so i'll start off by giving the reasons why i DONT think it will be sasuke....

1) the conversation between sasuke and kakashi shortly after sasuke and naruto fought on the rooftop.
This is one of the biggest details that brought me to my conclusion. Kakashi knows what happens to people who go down sasuke's path, and for those who succeed in their revenge, only emptiness remains. I'm quite certain, that if sasuke manages to get revenge on itachi, he will never be able to return to being a good guy.

2) itachi says "the only one who can beat me is another with the same eyes as me." Of course this led us all to believe that he was referring to sasuke....however the only way sasuke can have the mangekyou is to kill naruto...and we KNOW that will never happen.


a few things that CAN happen, however.....

1) Sasuke can beat itachi to the point where he can kill him, but then has a change of heart.
It could happen...i've seen that in anime plenty of times...

2) Sasuke can beat itachi AFTER his goal changes from revenge to defending his friends. I would much prefer to see a scenario like this than the one before this.

3) The unlikely event that sasuke finds out itachi wasnt the one who actually killed off his clan afterall....
but then sasuke still can't be the one to beat the true murderer, if thats the case, because then we end up back to my 1st point.

4) Someone else defeats itachi, plain and simple. The only people i see doing this though, is either Naruto or the 3rd mangekyou user.

for options 1 and 2, sasuke will most likely need mangekyou for these to work. Will he find an alternate way to obtain it? Idk....it's possible

All in all, I'd be more inclined to side with option 2 or 4....
Any other thoughts?

#2.

It's absolutely retarded to think that someone else will beat Itachi. You might as well completely remove Sasuke from the storyline.

#2. i think sasuke will obtain something more powerful than mangekyou by not becoming evil and killing a friend.

Sasuke will kill Itachi and afterwards think back to what kakashi told him then regret what he had done and commit suicide.

If Itachi dies before Sasuke gets to him, like if Naruto somehow kills him, then the past 250 chapters of Sasuke's development will have been wasted. I don't know if Sasuke will beat Itachi, or die against him, but he must at least interact with him at least once more before Itachi dies. Now, whether that interaction happens with Sasuke in his own body, or with Sasuke's vengence coming through Orochimaru in Sasuke's body, I have no idea.

The talk with Kakashi probably doesn't mean much, since the flashback has shown us that Kakashi has absaloutly no idea what Sasuke is going through. Kakashi didn'y go revengeful on the grass (was it grass or rock) ninjas, he didn't get the chance to feel empty becuase of power chasing, the only similiarity he and Sasuke have are the bad personallity.

what I would like to see is a diffrent version of solution #2, instead of killing Itachi to protect his friends, he only battles Itachi for that reason, and gives his friends (be it naruto or Sakura) time to escape, and then end up getting killed by Itachi, leaving the revenge mission to someone else.

no one will kill itachi, due to the fact that there must be more behind the uchiha's massacre. It'll be retarded if itachi kill his whole clan to prove his capacity. if he wants to prove his capacity, fuck go fight the hokage, this would makes more sense to me.

the anime made it easier to understand.....
he didnt kill the clan to see his strength, he killed the clan to see if he could bring himself to killing the clan
everyone of the uchiha clan were raised to believe that everything they do should be for the interests of the clan, which is what itachi sees as being a sort of ball-and-chain that limits the individualities of people.

btw, #4 doesnt necessarily need to happen before sasuke shows up. it could happen right in front of his face. the point is that he fails to measure up, but still witnesses his brother being beaten.

Ummm....I actually think Itachi cares about Sauske (caring as in he wants to push Sauske to the limit, forcing him to be the best he can be)

and I choose #2 but with alterations: Sauske will kill Itachi and reach a new height of evilness. He'll never be the good guy he once was ever again.

#4 I would really like if Naruto or the third living Uchicha killed Itachi before Sasuke eyes,that would be so great [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

Come one dudes, if Oro hasn't killed Sasuke Itachi will kill him, and Naruto will then lose his senses, his self, and give the kyuubi free reign
killing the weaker shinobis in the vicinity with bloodlust only, and then he will litteraly eat Itachi alive. Well aslong as Sasuke dies I'm satisfied

I believe that itachi has more background than what we think , all that about killing dozens of ppl only to prove strengh or to break clan bounds makes little sense, if itachi was some kind of gaara maybe i would undestand.

This is completely my invention but i think that itachi killed all the clan following orders and that he agreed to it to save at least 1 member of his family. Maybe the one who spoke to him about mangekyo, the other uchiha member threathened him about killing all the clan or cheated him, itachi is weaker than the other member and thats why he had no more option than to do it, maybe the 3rd magekyo killed the clan and itachi couldnt do anything, or was frigthened, or he was allied with him or under his command.

He left sasuke alive because he knows that sasuke will become stronger than him and could be able to kill the 3rd mangekyuo user for him, and tries to make sasuke to improve with hatred. Quite stupid i know but well its my spare time and the explanation of killing everybody for no reason seems equal absurd. In the end sasuke will fight itachi and beat him but spare his life in the last moment, then 3rd magejyo user will kill itachi (or tell sasuke the truth that he killed all uchihas) and sasuke will make an stupid power boost to beat him down.

bye.

I hope Sasuke does kill Itachi and takes over bein the ruthless villian. He would make an awesome badguy from the behavior seen when he activates his curse seal. I like Sasuke's character and it would be different if he pulls a Vegeta but instead of going from bad-good from good-bad.

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Ummm....I actually think Itachi cares about Sauske (caring as in he wants to push Sauske to the limit, forcing him to be the best he can be).

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Yes I agree that Itachi cares for Sasuke.

First, he did not kill Sasuke on 2 occasions which he could have easily done so.

Secondly, Itachi said something along the lines of:

1) "I want you to grow stronger, even if it means hating me."

2) "If you want to kill me, grow stronger."

3) "You cannot defeat me because your hatred is not deep enough."

From all this it's pretty obvious Itachi either still has plans for Sasuke or still regards him as a brother. So, I'll go with the outcome of Sasuke defeating Itachi, but not killing him as he learns that Itachi still cares for him. However, Itachi will still die by either protecting Sasuke/Naruto/Konoha Village or commit suicide by jumping down a cliff/drowning/big explosion or any other form of death where the body is not found so Kishimoto can always get him back due to popular demand.

I don't think Itachi really cares about Sasuke, but rather he wants someone who can fight him equally with his Mangekyou Sharingan. Sort of like training someone up to fight with in a crude manner of speaking.

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2) itachi says "the only one who can beat me is another with the same eyes as me." Of course this led us all to believe that he was referring to sasuke....however the only way sasuke can have the mangekyou is to kill naruto...and we KNOW that will never happen.

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At the end of their battle - it's possible that Sasuke thought he actually killed Naruto, thus his frame of mind stated that he'd killed his best friend, unlocking the ability. We don't know how it works exactly, but it has to be about the evilness of killing someone you've cared about, and for all we know Sasuke thinks he succeeded in that department.

nah, sasuke knows he didn't kill naruto.....you can tell that just before he was about to nail naruto with the chidori, he held back a little and went for a less-fatal blow
then he also says something along the lines of "I WILL NOT BE YOUR PUPPET," he is saying that he wont let itachi force him into killing naruto, and will find strength his own way

At the end of the fight Sasuke could have killed naruto when he was unconscious but he just looked at him and reflected about how he'd been such an ass.

hehe : )

I dunno... Maybe 2.


I don't know enough about Oro's ability to take over bodies, but it seems that the Mangekyou Sharingan (and possibly, -though it might be lame- Sasuke's hatred for Itachi) might be enough to allow Sasuke to free himself from Oro....

Itachi is interesting, he's sick, but he's no lunatic. I don't think he lost himself in the massacre where he might have killed Sasuke had Sasuke arrived during the slaughter. Had he killed Sasuke, I could see Itachi losing it and heading for Kohana and elsewhere with the purpose of killing everyone.

It is possible that there is some other eye that is similar to Mangekyou that Sasuke can obtain, if not Mangekyou itself...
I do not know if Sasuke will kill Itachi,but he might atleast torture him nearly to death.

unfortunately it does seem like sasuke will be the 1 to kill itachi, unless kakashi does it first LOL

I go with #2 that he will kill Itachi defending his friends but probably will end in a dramatic way.

Sasuke uses the chidori and thrust it through itachi and are facing each other very close. Itachi coughs blood and slowly moves his hand upwards and flicks Sasuke in the forhead and says "Good job Sasuke. You have gotten strong", then he coughs more blood and dies.