Does anyone know why everything is centred around Ichigo's neighbourhood in the story? Like Urahara and Yoruichi, Vizards. Aizen even bases his operations there. Is his neighbourhood some kind of spiritual place unique in all the world?
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Does anyone know why everything is centred around Ichigo's neighbourhood in the story? Like Urahara and Yoruichi, Vizards. Aizen even bases his operations there. Is his neighbourhood some kind of spiritual place unique in all the world?
Because its a Shonen Jump. And who the main character is.
I see it like this..
At the start of the series Ichigo's neighborhood was nothing special, except for Urahara and Yoruichi residing there, but that may have something to do with the fact Ichigo's father settled down in that particular area. We still know nothing about Urahara and Ichigo's father's past. Yoruichi just seems to be following Urahara.
Shinigami do their Hollow killing all over the real world it seems, and it's not just limited to Ichigo's area. Once Ichigo began his adventure, his resatsu continued to rise gaining the attention of various dangerous hollows.
I was under the impression that the Vizards didn't always take residence in the city, but are wanderers and was attracted to Ichigo's power.
Also, I don't think Aizen has his base of operations there either. It seems that Hecuo Mendo is an alternate dimension, similar to Soul Society and they can gain access to any spot in the real world. The few times we've run into the Arrancar is because they all had interests in Ichigo, thus why they have shown up there.
Bottom line: Ichigo's Neighborhood was not originally special, but due to the circumstances of events thus far, it has become so.
And I apologize for any misspellings. I'm still getting used to the words.
All over the real world meaning all over Japan, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegechan
Sometimes I have thought it would be funny if some foreign "shinigami" (whatever they would happen to be called back where they come from) made a surprise visit and cautioned the SS folks to keep the hollows and Arrancar under control so that they wouldn't ever bother the rest of the world.
Actually the Quincies are the only people who, if you judge the imagery, could be considered to have international contacts and history.
@Kraco:
What you said is quite interesting as I never thought about whether shinigamis are Japanese only or not :confused: . Why do you think they are Japanese only? Because Death Gods are a Japanese myth? Some of the Bounto for instance spoke funny sounding German everytime they summoned their dolls ("Zeige dich...!") but were "born" in SS. Why would a Japanese guy summon his doll in a foreign language? I know it is filler material but I had to mention this as I don't see why I shouldn't get my extraordinarily awesome zanpaktou after I die ;)
I tend to bypass the filler material when judging things like this, because, in the end, the fillers aren't tied to the bigger picture and their only role is to fill some transient space, not be material to refer to later.
So, forgetting the German elements in the fillers, if you have a look at the SS itself, it's pretty obvious it's through and through Japanese. The architecture, the society, the clothing styles, social rules. It's a kind of simplified version of some vague Japanese period. I can't very well imagine those shinigami would visit places like Europe or America to collect souls to that Japanese styled place. That leads me to believe the SS is actually a much larger dimension, and we only saw one city around there - the one responsible for the culture of Japan. There must be other places there collecting souls from other cultures, and those places would remind of simplified versions of those respective cultures.
I'm not an expert of the Japanese culture, but I wonder if that's true. Well, even if it is, these shinigami aren't any different from the Grim Reaper (or maybe they look more healthy, but otherwise).Quote:
Originally Posted by StillAlive
Even if you forget about the German elements in the filler, in the current arc the Arrancar have been using spanish for their names/skills/releases i believe. Also, i'm no expert but Hueco Mundo sounds spanish to me. I'd say the fact that SS has such a Japanese theme is more likely the result of the story being created by a Japanese person rather than it being an indicator of having several SS type places for each culture around the world.
Yeah, but that's it. They don't otherwise seem so Spanish to me. And besides, that's essentially why I said some foreign God of Death should pay a visit: Aizen, Gin and Tousen are, after all, Japanese shinigami, and leaders of those Arrancar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crash
O rly?Quote:
I'd say the fact that SS has such a Japanese theme is more likely the result of the story being created by a Japanese person rather than it being an indicator of having several SS type places for each culture around the world.
That's of course the real reason. And the fact the whole show is solely made for the Japanese audience. However, writing this doesn't require very much creativity... Nor is it very interesting.
That's an interesting notion. I could see Shinigami's in America looking like the MIB or Matrix agents. Running around in black suits using zanpaktous that look like guns. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
Why do you think Tousen is a Japanese Shinigami? He's black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
There are quite a few black people even in Finland, and this must be one of the most homogenous countries in the world (because this is so bloody cold and remote that few people want to come here), so I imagine Japan, with a population 25 times that of Finland, simply has to have some as well.
And while I'm no preacher, it's pretty risky to say somebody can't be of some nationality because of his outward appearance. You think Ichigo is some Irish dude, then?
Black people generally have to come from somewhere to get a foothold in a country. Black people in the US came from slave plantations in the south and then spread. Black people in Europe (I think) came from similar circumstances, but then spread all over Europe. But where would black people have come from to get to Japan? China? Russia? Vietnam???? Most of these places don't have a history of large non indigenous populations living among them for a long time. India does come to mind, as blacks could theoretically have been brought in decent numbers by the British, but why would they import slaves when they could just force Indians to do work. (There was a reason for this in the US with Native American's but I don't know if it applies to Indians).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraco
Also it's my understanding that Japanese people don't particularly like foreigners. Now this is based on a lot of conjecture, but I've never gotten the impression that the Japanese were a people very open to large numbers of non Japanese people living among them long term. This atmosphere wouldn't be very hospitable and large populations of non-indigenous peoples would not be likely to grow without assimilating fully into Japanese culture. I don't really know for sure, but if I was chilling on a train in Tokyo I wouldn't be surprised by a colder then average welcome.
Yeah it's true that the Japanese don't like foreigners. It's because of their culture, and that they do not even learn a second language because they think there is no need to. But that is slowly changing, with the younger generation being more westernised and open in thinking.
As for the Black people in Japan, I'm quite sure there are a few, as I'm seen some of them on other Japanese variety programmes. Some of them speak really good Japanese as well.
Those living in Finland are either, practically speaking, refugees and assimilated refugees (these two forming the majority) or foreign workers. Practically speaking, again, you could say before 80's or so you rarely saw anything but whites here, and when the first dark skinned people came, they probably got the kind of "welcome" people think foreigners in Japan get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukimura
Well, I have no idea if Japan accepts refugees at all. If they don't, then their land certainly would remain more homogenous.
apparantly it is possible for ichigos father to go from being a shinigami to a gigai that includes sexual reproduction abilities ^^
i never thought about that until i read the first few posts of this thread... maybe urahara and yuroichi should use the same type of gigai and have some kids.
I just like to believe that this is because Ichigo lives there. His ability siphoning off allows other characters to get abilities.
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Hehe, whe nI saw this thread I thought it was pretty funny, since it popped up the week before I knew the epiosde that would prove it correct would air. If you aren't a manga prophet in disguise then good call 12345p.