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well, so above all the other bad things he's done, Danzou now had Itachi kill Shisui so he could get a sharingan eye?
although, for his defense, it should be the village rule. maybe the anbu wouldn't be so useless if they were given a sharingan eye. I'm willing to bet that there are enough ninjas who would agree to the deal.
Yes, you're perfectly rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Pandadice
It's not like attempt at murder is wrong at all, because it didn't work!
I say they welcome Sasuke back to Konoha with beers and whores and let bygones be bygones
That's what I found most interesting actually because it seems like it could actually happen. For the people wanting something more from Madara, this could be a chickens before they hatch scenario, but it would a hell of a thing for Kishi to pull off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rikudo
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Originally Posted by Pandadice
1) Defecting his own village
2) Attempting to murder a comrade with Chidori
3) Working under an S-class Missin-nin (who murdered 3 Kage)
4) Could have caused war if his actions against KillerBee were blamed to Konoha.
5) Becoming a member of Akatsuki (at least this is what everybody believes since he wears its cloak)
6) He intents to destroy Konoha and / or kill the 5 Kage.
So you are right. He hasn't commited any crime. Like Archie says, lets welcome him back with a glass of beer and open arms!
Someone said a spy for Danzou? That's retarded.
oh right, since running away from home is such a morally wrong and sociably inexcusable action. people who run away should be shot on sight, regardless of any kind of reasons they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockmanj
what kind of dictatorship world do you guys see the Narutoverse as, that someone can't just go away from the village to do what he wants? why are the ninja so set-in-stone that they can't leave? that's just retarded. plus, he ran away from home so he could kill another missing nin from Konoha. so if you're looking at it from a "end justifies the means" viewpoint, yeah, pretty much everything he's done so far is perfectly acceptable. killing the missing nin, killing Orochimaru (someone who wanted to, and attempted to destroy Konoha)
1 murder attempt? man, all those crimeS are seriously building up now. a ninja attempted to kill an innocent ninja from another country? Preposterous!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
already covered, boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyougaZell
who? Naruto? naruto threw a rasengan right back at him so don't even give me that, boy.Quote:
2) Attempting to murder a comrade with Chidori
who he later killed. saving the rest of the world from the bad-mans evil agenda. plus, he did go around to some of his prisons and free the innocent humans. but you're right, him doing that is a crime. unforgivableQuote:
3) Working under an S-class Missin-nin (who murdered 3 Kage)
seriously? isn't that what diplomacy is for? yeah, a missing nin did something to another country, not his fault that the country is too dumb to realize he's not associated with his home anymore. plus it's KIllabee's fault for running away. something that you guys seem to think sasuke needs to be killed for.Quote:
4) Could have caused war if his actions against KillerBee were blamed to Konoha.
calling stretch, because this is a purely "from the kages viewpoint" accusation. plus, the kages themselves use akatsuki bro. so whats the big deal if he's doing the same?Quote:
5) Becoming a member of Akatsuki (at least this is what everybody believes since he wears its cloak)
the only dude he wants to kill is danzou or the village elders. if Shikamaru or someone took over the village I don't think he'd have any problem at all with who's in charge.Quote:
6) He intents to destroy Konoha and / or kill the 5 Kage.
awesome sarcasm bro. just shut your mouth next time, okay?Quote:
So you are right. He hasn't commited any crime. Like Archie says, lets welcome him back with a glass of beer and open arms!
i'm sure i'm gonna get plenty more neg reps for this post. D:
Pandadice, are you being serious or are you trolling?
You did not offer one valid refutation of RZ's points. None of those arguments make any sense whatsoever. I don't think you understand that just because you, the omniscient viewer, haven't been affected by Sasuke's actions, doesn't mean the other characters haven't.
Edit: I hope Ao's Byakugan fits in to the story on some deeper level than "Kishimoto needed a way for someone to out Danzo for manipulating everyone"
Surely he could have sent Neji along if that was the case.
Edit 2: I'm so happy it was revealed Danzo has mind-control powers. That explains the stupidity of him being elected Hokage/Ninja Emperor.
It's still very Deus-Ex but at least we know the characters themselves aren't completely brain-dead.
Neji wouldn't be able to identify the chakra as being Shisui's (sp?)Quote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo
And i hadn't thought about that, i'm very happy about it too now
There's an entire sub-village of people living in Konoha that already has the Byakugan. Surely one of the Hyuuga would have seen Shisui's chakra inside Danzo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
Either there's another reason Kishimoto decided to give a random character the Byakugan, or he wrote himself into a wall and needed an out.
Not to add more fuel to the Madara/Danzou fire, but what if Tobi/Madara's intentions of sending Sasuke in are to make the Kage's accept Danzou as leader once he "disposes" of the "evil Akatsuki" member known as Uchiha Sasuke? Everything clicks at this moment. Think about it, first he sends Sasuke to get the 8-Tails and now that the Raikage seems the less inclined to accept Danzou, Danzou goes and disposes of Sasuke. He would gain the respect of him and everyone else, add to that the possibility that they are the same person (or at least they are working together) and you have an Empire. 5 Villages + Akatsuki, with Danzou/Madara as leader.
Doesn't sound too far fetched to me. Although the little "!!" when Zetzu appeared makes it seems like he (Danzou) was surprised as if he didn't know anything about it.
Can't wait to see WTH is really going on in this mess.
Yes, but why would Danzou willingly bring someone who could blow his cover?Quote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo
You're probably right about the wall, it wouldn't be the first time
Well, I meant it more as a "Why has this never been brought up before?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
How long has Danzo had the right half of Shisui? And no one's ever noticed that before?
It's probably because you can only see the chakra while using the mind contol technique. So Danzo would probably just not use it around people with Byakugan.Quote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo
Exactly, probably because if it was in constant use it would be impossible for him to maintain that eye, the same as kakashiQuote:
Originally Posted by Sam98034
PS: Kakashi is loosing cool point fast, with all these special eyes popping out of nowhere
Except Kakashi's Sharingan is always in constant use. That's why he covers it up. This would seem to be the case with Danzo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archangel
That's assuming quite a lot. Also Ao sees the chakra in Danzo's right arm as well as his eye, so it's got nothing to do with the sharingan at all. The image shown is the same one we see that every Byakugan user sees. To my knowledge the Byakugan can't tell what kind of jutsu is being performed, and Ao simply recognizes Shisui's chakra. He never actually says "Danzo is controlling everyone."Quote:
It's probably because you can only see the chakra while using the mind contol technique. So Danzo would probably just not use it around people with Byakugan.
The chapte was awesome! I'm starting to think that Danzo and Madara gotta be connected some how...Zetsu just happens to show up right when Danzo is about to be interrogated about his eye. Dammit Madara and thank you at the same time for the extra dose of drama with the change of events. Now instead of the heat being on Danzo its on Sasuke. Madara's playing team hawk right back into his grasp. He can't control Sasuke but he can always have Sasuke working for him by assigning him a mission and then purposely screwing it up for him. The way this is going Sasuke with never be able to get away from Madara unless Naruto steps in and they join forces.
Shikamaru and the gang coming together to take out Sasuke is another awesome part of this chapter. Finally were gonna see the next gen of baddasses all work together when they are older. I haven't been this excited in along time....There are so many possiblity of goodness about to happen its bananas!
I hope this really is trolling...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandadice
I'm just going to bring up one very salient point about the missing-nin thing.
Ninja villages do not want their secrets getting out, because they do not want other countries knowing of them. So, usually when a ninja goes missing, they put a hit out on them so that they don't give up the village secrets. Now, in Sasuke's case this goes double, as he is the last known natural Sharingan user, which would be of great value to opposing nations if it was acquired. This is the prime reason that Sasuke is a criminal in the Naruto world (in Konoha's eyes), and Tracking down missing-nin is one of the jobs of ANBU
I'll ignore such blatant troll... those answers seemed to show someone who never has seen this show before...
If we follow this logic... then none of Akatsuki are evil. Just misunderstood little bunnies :rolleyes:
My guess is that Danzo lost an eye during the war. Probably during the battle alongside Hanzo against Nagato. Thus, no one found it strange that he wore a bandage on his head all his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by XanBcoo
What intrigues me, as you mentioned it, is how the hell did he manage to not let people notice he had a new arm?
All this time I though he was missing one btw.
He probably stole that half the very same night Itachi killed Shisui... or... Itachi never did kill Shisui, but Danzou did. No nevermind... this wouldn't make sense.
Danzou probably had his body attached to Shisui's after Itachi fleed. And probably killed the medics (Rin maybe? we never knew her fate)
But yes... wtf have the Hyuuga been doing the past decade? Or did he use his new eye to distract them?
well, it was said that Shinsui's suicide note was in his own handwriting.
Well, whatever reason Madara has for sending in Sasuke, we can be fairly sure it isn't to get him killed. He still needs Sasuke for the giant statue.
Danzou didn't fight alongside Hanzo against Nagato.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyougaZell