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Good episode, nice to see that Shikamaru knows his father's jutsu, and of course, he was as wise as ever with this strategies. As for the preview... T_T Now I can't wait for next weeks episode, going to be very interesting. Now the Kimimaro fight can get more interesting, instead of just seeing Naruto's kage bunshins just standing there.
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Originally posted by: oniorochi
Anyway, am I the only one that thinks Shikamaru's strategies sucks? He depends to much on chance and luck.
A true strategist understand the influence of random events and plans around them, not depend on them.
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Yes, and I suppose a made-up character in a made believe world should doing thing like a the "real" world.
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Originally posted by: Dezalanel
If his strategies suck so much, then why do they always work? He strategies have yet to fail the guy is a genius.
They always work because this is not the real-world.
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its like chess.....
you can plan your moves out all you want, but if you dont take into account the fact that your opponent can perform just as many moves as you, then you're gonna lose. Part of shikamaru's strategic skills involve predicting how his opponent is going to move next, and I think he had control of the whole situation ever since he put his hands together in concentration
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I'd like to apologize for posting a bum torrent in the release information...
and to say one thing
Shikimaru for Hokage!
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PREVIEW SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was thinking about who we saw in the preview then thought back to episode 121 when Kiba smells and sees the shadows in the forest above. Now I think that he did not see Konoha's Green beast otherwise he would not have said "What are THEY doing here" I believe that there are move reinforcements coming but I am standing by my prediction that the 3 sand genins are coming since the only people Kiba has ever been scared of when he gets their scent is them...but if you remember the Country of Wind and Fire are supposed to be allies so maybe they are coming to save everyones asses.
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Originally posted by: Dezalanel
If his strategies suck so much, then why do they always work? He strategies have yet to fail the guy is a genius.
Because the script sucks?
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uh......what kind of strategies ARE there, if the ones involving anticipation and prediction arent good enough for you?
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Not when anticipation and prediction is for stochastic events.
It's hard to portray genious, that's why only "A Beautiful Mind" ever comes close for me.
At least Shikamaru's strategies could be complex and accurate instead of completelty depending on stochastic events similar to a roll with a dice.
Pretty much all things that wheren't "random" is obious in this series.
I guess compared to Naruto (in the current events) he will be a genious, but then, everybody in the series is.
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Originally posted by: oniorochi
Not when anticipation and prediction is for stochastic events.
It's hard to portray genious, that's why only "A Beautiful Mind" ever comes close for me.
At least Shikamaru's strategies could be complex and accurate instead of completelty depending on stochastic events similar to a roll with a dice.
Pretty much all things that wheren't "random" is obious in this series.
I guess compared to Naruto (in the current events) he will be a genious, but then, everybody in the series is.
in the real world, you never know exactly what's going to happen next.....it would be impractical for him to know all the answers without knowing his opponent, but it isnt just luck and guessing, its "educated guessing"
I still dont get where you call it blatantly randomness
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Well, I don't really see anything wrong with Shikamaru in terms of his strategies/being a genious and how that is portrayed. I think what he comes up with is interesting. He is a very good observer so he takes everything in, comes up with a strategy based off of his information gathered and predictions. And in terms of being "everybody in the series being a genious", I think Shikamaru is the only 'genious' in terms of knowledge and using it.
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yeah vote for shika as hokage [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
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Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
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Originally posted by: oniorochi
Not when anticipation and prediction is for stochastic events.
It's hard to portray genious, that's why only "A Beautiful Mind" ever comes close for me.
At least Shikamaru's strategies could be complex and accurate instead of completelty depending on stochastic events similar to a roll with a dice.
Pretty much all things that wheren't "random" is obious in this series.
I guess compared to Naruto (in the current events) he will be a genious, but then, everybody in the series is.
in the real world, you never know exactly what's going to happen next.....it would be impractical for him to know all the answers without knowing his opponent, but it isnt just luck and guessing, its "educated guessing"
I still dont get where you call it blatantly randomness
OK, then lets rephrase that. Shikamaru in this fight is taking chances, that is not a quality of geniality, instead they appear on MTV in a series call Jackass.
I'n his previous fights he did calculated risks, but that's OK, because it means you have backup plans; that is a quality of mind. But he still has not done anything that makes him a genious.
I mean, many people have called me a genious during my years at different universities, am I one? Hell no, I'm blantly ignorant or stupid, but lucky (like Shikamaru [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]).
So, luck and geniality are orthogonal.
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i see......so when are you gonna stop using dictionary.com to beat around the bush and finally explain what your problem is and how it couldve been better [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]