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Wed, 09-26-2018, 04:10 PM
KrayZ33

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That said, it doesn't matter if it's just or not, because Ainz has ABSOLUTE POWER.

A king has absolute power over a peasant too. Doesn't stop anything.

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Massacring hundreds of thousands of people is not just in their world either.

It is just.
They are at war. Properly declared, properly accepted.

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Suddenly declaring independence which results in a war is not a passive or defensive action. They were the ones demanding stuff from the Kingdom, not the other way around.

Ainz is acting for the benefit of Nazarik, being a tyrant doesn't benefit him at all.
The declaration was backed by the Empire. That's the backup he needs to not make him look like a random upstart.

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By killing, say, a few hundred of them using the twins like they did with the Empire? Pretty sure the emperor realized Ainz's power with that stunt. In fact, why didn't they just do that with the kingdom too?

Ya, he realized it so well, that he was trying to scheme against Ainz in an instant.

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Actually, what's the point of spreading his name if he can just fly to the next country again and drop a dragon on them too?

And what will *that* do?
Wed, 09-26-2018, 04:19 PM
Ryllharu

Yeah, I just can't anymore. It is a chore to even watch these week to week. This season is boring, the animation is garbage, and the plot this entire season is, "Nazarick is evil."

Okay...we got that from last season. What has this been other than a waste of time?

Dropped. The season in general has been quite bad. I will only barely finish four shows (and I'm not including Overlord).
Wed, 09-26-2018, 04:47 PM
KrayZ33

Just one more episode btw.

I doubt we'll see a Season 4 before 2020 or something (if at all), so Anime is pretty dead anyway.

Overall not enough Albedo. I too believe the animation is so bad, that its pretty much unenjoyable.
There is no point in massive battles and giant monsters when you can't make them look good.
Wed, 09-26-2018, 06:33 PM
MFauli

Lol @ this debate. Guys, what's it matter? It's been established that Ainz is a generric evil villain, no part of him is human anymore. How he might rule the kingdoms? Whatever, he'll kill anyone anyway of he so wills it. Ainz is currently playing in god-cheat mode. That's boring.

Honestly, no season 4 needed. The only way I'd continue watching is if another player is introduced, one who fights for good/human. Or lots of Albedo sex(y) scenes. That'd be okay, too.
Wed, 09-26-2018, 06:59 PM
Buffalobiian

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Originally Posted by MFauli

The only way I'd continue watching is if another player is introduced, one who fights for good/human.

Ainz hasn't fought the strongest folks in the Slaine Theocracy yet, who look to be the only guys capable of standing up to him in this human world ("standing up" is relative). They were the ones who managed to control Shaltear.
Wed, 09-26-2018, 09:24 PM
shinta|hikari

They controlled Shalltear because of an item right? You don't have to be strong yourself to use items.

[QUOTE=MFauli]Lol @ this debate. Guys, what's it matter? It's been established that Ainz is a generric evil villain, no part of him is human anymore. How he might rule the kingdoms? Whatever, he'll kill anyone anyway of he so wills it. Ainz is currently playing in god-cheat mode. That's boring.[/QUOTE]

This was exactly what I was saying, except he isn't playing very well.
Thu, 09-27-2018, 02:12 AM
KrayZ33

The Dragon did also manage to combat Shalltear quite well, though it was only hinted in a flashback.
Fri, 09-28-2018, 10:16 AM
Buffalobiian

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They controlled Shalltear because of an item right? You don't have to be strong yourself to use items.

Effective strength as in items + user.
Fri, 09-28-2018, 10:45 AM
shinta|hikari

But that item was consumable, so their effective strength dropped a significant amount after that. If they had more of those, they'd be using it by now.
Fri, 09-28-2018, 07:40 PM
Buffalobiian

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

But that item was consumable, so their effective strength dropped a significant amount after that. If they had more of those, they'd be using it by now.

I wasn't aware of it being an item. I just know that 2 from Slain Theocracy died, while Dragon was wounded during that encounter.

EDIT: That above line was based on Overlord II Episode 01. Looking back at Movie2, which summed up the latter part of Season 1 however, it suggested that a dragon-lady with unsagging boobs shot a dragon spell at Shaltear instead. I don't know which is accurate.

Ains mentions that using a One of Twenty world item will destroy it, but didn't say that the one controlling Shaltear is one of the twenty single use ones.
Tue, 10-02-2018, 06:24 PM
MFauli

Well, it's over.

Is a s4 coming?
Tue, 10-02-2018, 08:14 PM
shinta|hikari

Wow, that was pointless.

So much meaningless fluff.

Please no more S4. Use that money for something else.
Wed, 10-03-2018, 02:26 AM
KrayZ33

judging by the animation quality, I doubt they used money at all :D
Wed, 10-03-2018, 03:43 AM
Buffalobiian

I quite like Overlord, but they're doing such a shit job at making it interesting.

The whole PVP talk during the dual felt nerdy in a very bad way.
Wed, 10-03-2018, 09:13 AM
shinta|hikari

I don't understand what Ainz wanted to achieve with that duel. If he wanted to respect the dood, he would've at least let him fight a little instead of insta-killing him like that. If he didn't care, he should've just ignored the duel and killed them all.

You can argue Ainz used his full power out of respect, but that doesn't hold water because of the vast power difference. You don't "respect" a dumb puppy trying to pick a fight with you and then stomp its head into the ground to kill it. In fact, Ainz never needed to kill him. He could've just used some paralysis or sleep spell and be done with it.

Also, the conclusion those 2 muscleheads arrived at was insane. They thought warrior dood wanted to duel Ainz to show them Ainz's power so that they can find countermeasures? Really? Aren't the rampaging black monsters enough to explain that they don't and never will stand a chance? Isn't it better to find a way to survive under the demon god's rule, especially because said god appears merciful and reasonable throughout that farce of a fight?
Wed, 10-03-2018, 09:55 AM
MFauli

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

Also, the conclusion those 2 muscleheads arrived at was insane. They thought warrior dood wanted to duel Ainz to show them Ainz's power so that they can find countermeasures? Really? Aren't the rampaging black monsters enough to explain that they don't and never will stand a chance? Isn't it better to find a way to survive under the demon god's rule, especially because said god appears merciful and reasonable throughout that farce of a fight?

Think, McFly, think.

That was the only good part.
yes, Ainz' overall abilities are overwhelming, which is why any official grand heads-on encounter is futile.

Therefore, directly fighting Ainz is the only logical conclusion. Will that be easy? No, but infinitely easier than trying to kill those hell monsters, the death knight army and his personal servants.

Thanks to Gaseff, they now know that sword CAN kill Ainz, if only they can awaken its true powers. They also know about his time stop ability that apparently can be easily neutralized. Having both these enlightenments suddenly makes the outcom of a repeat duel much more open. Ofc, Ainz is still superior overall, but ... it's a start. Before, he was godly invincible. Now there's a crack.
Wed, 10-03-2018, 09:59 AM
shinta|hikari

What crack, lol.

Only Ainz knows about the power of that sword, and he just said it can "hurt" him, which means theoretically it can "kill" him. That's like saying a spoon can kill me, if I like sit there and let it dig into my eye or something. Not gonna happen.

Time stop can be easily countered from Ainz's perspective. Pretty sure the humans don't even know what time stop is, much less how to counter it. The two who saw it didn't even know what happened, so yeah, useless duel.

Just stop being idiots and get on Ainz's good side. I mean, why the fuck not? They serve a king for a stupider reason than bowing to absolute power (i.e. tradition).

The warrior dood should've just asked Ainz to stop pursuing the human army in exchange for his service. Then Momon wouldn't even need to do the fake turncoat thing because warrior dood can do it in his stead.
Wed, 10-03-2018, 10:06 AM
MFauli

They can deduct that it was a time stop ability and, while not easy, their elite wizards can probably create a protection spell.

Live under Ainz' rule would suck, because of how much of a heartless prick he's become. Also, personally speaking, I'd probably get myself killed in the process of wooing Albedo ...
Wed, 10-03-2018, 10:11 AM
shinta|hikari

Ainz is heartless against enemies, not his people. If they officially become his people, he'll be as nice as any ruler in their world, which isn't really nice but still not genocidal. Also, the alternative is a brutal death, so... easy choice.

How the heck can they deduce it was a time stop ability? The more probable deduction is "Ainz was too fast" or "Ainz used a mind trick spell" versus him actually stopping time, which is kind of ridiculous btw.
Wed, 10-03-2018, 11:11 AM
Kraco

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

I don't understand what Ainz wanted to achieve with that duel. If he wanted to respect the dood, he would've at least let him fight a little instead of insta-killing him like that. If he didn't care, he should've just ignored the duel and killed them all.

It was a form of respect to use real power against someone called the strongest warrior of the kingdom. If he had allowed Gazef to "fight a little", it would have been toying with him. Other than that, this way he could end it cleanly, without Gazef's body and equipment suffering any damage.

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Originally Posted by shinta|hikari

Also, the conclusion those 2 muscleheads arrived at was insane. They thought warrior dood wanted to duel Ainz to show them Ainz's power so that they can find countermeasures? Really? Aren't the rampaging black monsters enough to explain that they don't and never will stand a chance? Isn't it better to find a way to survive under the demon god's rule, especially because said god appears merciful and reasonable throughout that farce of a fight?

It was better than admitting Gazef died for nothing and despairing.

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The warrior dood should've just asked Ainz to stop pursuing the human army in exchange for his service. Then Momon wouldn't even need to do the fake turncoat thing because warrior dood can do it in his stead.

He was the kind of man who wouldn't serve under another until relieved by his first lord. In the first place, if he had betrayed the king and the kingdom, how could have Ainz really trusted him? He would have been a known traitor.

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