leaf villiage overpowered?

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Originally posted by: angryinjun
...they sent a bunch of gennin with a rookie chuunin leader to get back an extremely valuable leaf member that is part of an extinct clan ...

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that is my exact point, the villiage is cranking out overpowered characters. The leaf villiage sent out a bunch of kids who should not be albe to hang with these sounds elite (more like e-lame) four.[/quote]

there are two reasons why the genins were sent.

1. how else would have naruto and crew tied in with the story? what would kishimoto have them doing while other ninjas go after sasuke? he can't show naruto and crew training again, too boring.
2. most of the upper level ninjas were already doing missions.

I disagree, the village's strength isn't any different. Strength of a village is decided by the leader (kage) and some followers (note: only some followers, because there will always be weak and some strong people). After the battle, the strong followers are still alive e.g. Gai, Kakashi, Hiashi, Chouji's father, Shika's father, Kiba's father, etc. They are still all around. The only thing that has changed is at the Kage level. The third background was in ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. The fifths background is a little different. It's in the medical field. This doesn't make the fifth a weakling. Remember doctors are next to gods when it comes to who lives and who dies. The fifth can kill someone just by touching them (scalpel or changing neural networks). Overall, the strength of the village remains the same.

You have to admit that the leaf aren't as strong as they once were, they lost a crapload of nins in the invasion.

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Originally posted by: injun
i hope that kimi unleashes his 3rd dance. The "tossing of the Salad" That way kimi can be fleshed out as not only a killing machine but a ravager of assholes. lol

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^^ Masterful!!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by: CmDr_RavEn
You have to admit that the leaf aren't as strong as they once were, they lost a crapload of nins in the invasion.

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Yes, they lost many nins, but so did the invading army. It doesn't matter how many "bullet takers" die, as long as the good nins are still around. The good nins are the ones who help shape the community and history.

More importantly, Konoha is weak compared to who? Let's discuss the invading armies first. The Sands have it the worst. They are without a kage and they lost many men. The only real strong sand nin that we've seen is Gaara and Baki. The sounds really only have Kabuto and Oro left after the 4-gates are defeated (should really be 5-gates since there's a twin). So Konoha is a lot better off then these two villages (I don't believe the sounds have a village). Suffice to say, these two clans won't be attacking Konoha any time soon. All Konoha has to worry about is the other countries e.g. cloud and water. But we haven't seen much action from them.

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Originally posted by: rockmanj

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Originally posted by: injun
i hope that kimi unleashes his 3rd dance. The "tossing of the Salad" That way kimi can be fleshed out as not only a killing machine but a ravager of assholes. lol

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^^ Masterful!!![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

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rofl that's classic

Well, I don't think they are weak...they are certainly strong, but in a very strained position. BTW CmDr_RavEn, your whole post argues towards Konoha being overpowered, not weak as you say. They don't have anyone stronger to send after Sasuke because they are overpowered, even though they have plenty of strong ninjas. All of their strong ninjas are out doing missions, as you say.

just like the real world, some groups are simply gonna be stronger than others. The fact that konoha is such a large village means that even if the percentage of skilled ninjas to non-skilled is lower there than other villages, they could still have more skilled ninjas total than in other villages. Just as kakashi once said "there exists people who are younger than you, yet stronger than me"....age doesnt necessarily determine the outcome of the fight, and the only reason why those 4 sound nins are anything special is prolly because orochimaru got a hold of them and did crazy experiments or whatnot, kinda like what he did with zaku. The sound village has only been around for a year or so, so they havent established a very strong foundation yet. Also considering how kakashi always says that sasuke's reliance on the cursed seal would mean the end of his strength potential, the same prolly goes for those 4 as well. Since they depend alot on the seal, they fail to make themselves naturally stronger.

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Originally posted by: ComeComeParadise
Well, I don't think they are weak...they are certainly strong, but in a very strained position. BTW CmDr_RavEn, your whole post argues towards Konoha being overpowered, not weak as you say. They don't have anyone stronger to send after Sasuke because they are overpowered, even though they have plenty of strong ninjas. All of their strong ninjas are out doing missions, as you say.

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Eh? Which of my posts are you talking about?

Oh, now I see, the one on the first page.

I don't get what you're trying to say. My point is, seeing the Uchiha clan is all but extinct, you'd think retrieving one of the only surviving members from the enemy's grasp would be a top priority job. But because they are weaker now, they have no choice but to send a group of lower level nins with a rookie leader to go after him, because their remaining stronger nins are out doing missions to save face for the village, trying to maintain a "strong" image to the rest of the world.
If Konoha was to be attacked right now by a considerable force, they'd be wiped out. I'm disagreeing with the initial post and saying that they're underpowered right now, not overpowered.

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Originally posted by: Hokage-IV
also zabuza fell in love with a boy. complete badass

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yes... being a pedophile is bad ass... /sarcasim off


<-- that picture kinda looks like me when I wore glasses -_-

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Originally posted by: Daniel of Lorien

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Originally posted by: Hokage-IV
also zabuza fell in love with a boy. complete badass

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yes... being a pedophile is bad ass... /sarcasim off


<-- that picture kinda looks like me when I wore glasses -_-

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im sorry man.

konoha is kinda overpowered. but more power to em. This is probably why sand and sound wanted a part of the action. (I.E. the war)

Who said Tsunade is weak?! Have you all forgotten her freakish strength? I quote Jiraiya "...she punched he once and I ended up 100 yards away...". She posseses strength that scares Orochimaru-dono.

Neji will never die,hes the genius, well kiba had to fight the most power ful out of all of them

im glad kiba lost though.......it wouldve been way too damn convenient for ALL the matches to end in a draw or konoha winning

well kiba winning was a long shot to begin with

I don't think that Leaf is that overpowered, but it's true that alot of the strong ninja that we actually see in this story are all from leaf village. The 3 Legendary Sannins, and all the Hokages, the 4th sealed Kyuubi! Naruto with his Kyuubi Chakra, the elite bloodlines, Uchiha/Hyuuga. It's these strong characters that make it seem like Leaf is overpowered, but we haven't seen much elite ninja from other villages, so you can't really say leaf is overpowered.

Yeah exactly, for all we know other villages may have many ninja who are just as strong or stronger, but we haven't seen them yet.

i agree. hmm that also makes me wonder about the other nin involved with Akatsuki. I'd expect thaat organization to have many strong nin from all over.