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It seems like Tenten sorta hangs around Neji a lot, probably because Gai wouldn't give her any attention because he's too busy constantly training Lee.
It doesn't seem like either Neji or Tenten have many of Gai's techniques or mannerisms. Lee, on the other hand.....
first of all, sasuke did not master part of the omote renge move, all he did was to master the simple kick actions BEFORE the move, and these are NOT PART OF the move. thats your first point wrong.Quote:
Originally posted by: ESM
That's true, but Sasuke's ability to master part of Omote Renge which was something Neji was incapable of doing, after only seeing it once without any training does show a higher level of genius. Also, Neji and Sasuke's genius is different then Shikamaru's.Quote:
Originally posted by: itachi_
Just want to add that you don't have to be strong to be a genius... just check shikamaru and the others..
secondly, "after only seeing it once without any training" DOESNT show a higher level of genius BECAUSE he has the sharingan, it naturally allows him to copy jutsu.
if u argue that because of that he is a genius, then the following statement would hold true as well : "neji is more of a genius because he can see the 64 chakra points and sasuke cant"
lastly, regarding genius. ok. a genius is someone who has an extremely high level of intelligence, mental skill, or artistic ability. when u are using the word "genius" to describe shikamaru, it is because of his intelligence. if u are using "genius" to describe neji & sasuke, it is the extremely high level of ABILITY that makes them the genius they are.
also, regarding all of the other people's posts about neji being more of a genius because he learnt his moves before sasuke, etc. etc.
not that im supporting sasuke or anything, but, just because u learn it first doesnt neccessarily mean ur more of a genius.
OH YEAH! also, "achievements" dont have anything to do with being a "genius". =D
youre wrong about the fighting part, it just shows ur biased. first of all that speed is much faster than neji's speed, so even if he couldnt keep the speed for very long, he could defeat him before that. next thing is, sasuke has the sharingan, he can see thru jutsu, so he knows what neji is going to do,Quote:
Originally posted by: EpoC
most genious?
Neji is a genious of the genious.
Sasuke is a genious but not more genious that his brother who is a super genious.
If neiji whould be brought up by the main family, he would be even more genious.
If Sasuke would be brought up by his parents alot longer. he would aslo be even more genious.
but not more genious than his brother.
But Neji had little chance against naruto in kyubi mode, though it was a very small chance, it was still a chance.
And Sasuke almost got his ass whooped by naruto when naruto wasn't in kyubi mode.
But he fought Haku pretty good though.
And none of them became chounin,
Kakashi became a chounin at the age of 6 god dammit, that is genious. I bet they both would get there ass whooped by a six year old kakashi.
But the more genious of them would probobly be
Neji, he can master his bloodline limit better than sasuke, and he has a greater amount of chakra (I think).
And if they were to fight, I think neji would win. Because sasuke couldn't keep that speed very long. And neji knows that taijutsu because he have fought lee a couple of times, so therefor he knows how to avoid atacks. If sasuke would try to use the Chidori, neji would only defend himself against it with his ulitmate defense jutsu ( I never remembered the name of it). He would do so a coulple of times until sasuke can't use his chidori anymore, and is all tired. then he would use his other attack, with 64 hits ( I don't remember that name either) and then sasukes ass would be whooped. becuse he could not possible stand up against that kind of attack.
So that proves it (maybe) that neji is the more genious one.
simple thing
1) u are much faster
2) u know what ur opponent is gonna do
so, naturally he can hit him real hard. and also, sasuke wont be so stupid to use the chidori openly. it takes time to use. next thing is, the secret of the chidori lies in the SPEED of the stab, and etc. etc.
therefore, sasuke most probably would give neji trouble, (he can do this easily because of the above 2 reasons) until he sees a weak point, then attack with the chidori, neji most probably would not have time to use the kaiten, also, as u can see from neji vs naruto, the kaiten doesnt mean ur 100% safe, u can still get hit bad, so we dont know the outcome EVEN if neji uses the kaiten against sasuke's chidiori,
however like i said, sasuke most probably would only use the chidori at the correct situation, in which neji would not be able to kaiten.
hmm so far i have not added any comments on who is more of a genius, just pointing out the mistakes of what people are saying here.
well now im gonna add a comment : i'd say sasuke is more of a genius, simply because orochimaru chose him to be his "successor", meaning he is one of the better choices after kimimaro, and yes, there would of course be people better, but simple reason - he needs a young body
any other comments
Orochimaru-dono chose Sasuke as his new body specifically for his Sharingan. Not because he's more of a genious.
I'd believe Neji is more of a genius, he was able to accomplish alot even though he was never taught. Sasuke on the other hand is from a genius clan, but not a genius within the clan.
even though im a fan of sasuke id have to say neji because of the taijitsu he learned. he basically made it up himself we sasuke probably found out about his sharingan after seeing kakashi's but thats just my opinon.
heh i dont like to say things 2-3 times but here goes:Quote:
Originally posted by: Xceleration
I'd believe Neji is more of a genius, he was able to accomplish alot even though he was never taught. Sasuke on the other hand is from a genius clan, but not a genius within the clan.
accomplishments have NOTHING i repeat n o t h i n g at all to do with beingi a genius.
That's an interesting opinion, but genius is worthless unless you ACCOMPLISH something with it.
Naruto is the true genius, just watch 78. He's creative, that's why he'll surpass everyone.
Imo, Sasuke isn't a genius. He's talented, but not a genius. Of those two, Neji is the genius.
Neji is more of a genious than Sasuke will ever be. What genious has Sasuke showed us?
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Originally posted by: Charlemagne
I would have to say Sasuke, since Neji was defeated by NARUTO! If you get defeated by Naruto, you can't be a genious! And as for Sasuke, he survived being sealed by Orochimaru, nad has mastered Rock Lee's super taijutsu, Kakashis thousand birds-thingies.
BUT
Neji is cooler.
Sasuke got beat and tied up by Naruto. Neji lost to an uber naruto. Whereas, Sasuke lost to a lame ass Naruto.
in a one on one fight sasuke could not defeat Neji, not right now. He needs to learn more justsu. Neji is likely jsut as fast as sasuke. and sasuke chidori requires close combat. a realm in wich Neji cannot be beat by any of te current gennin/chunnin. these boys are strong definately the strongest of the current gennin and most like stronger than a good majority of the chunnin group. who is greater. there talents attack diffrent weaknesses. their strength is relative in a close combat match Neji. once sasuke has jutsu outside of the core academy traning. under his bealt he wil be able to keep his distance most liek woudl be able to own Neji... oh yeahand when he developes mange sharingan( wich im guessing he will do, far before itachi was able to )- well game over he will be stronger
I go with him. Sasuke needs more time to master his sharingan.Quote:
Originally posted by: itachi_
Neji is more kind of a genius would I say... Itachi mastered sharingan when he was 9, three dots, Sasuke is 13 and haven't even mastered it yet, he just recently began to use it.. Neji did that 64 hit combo without being in the main-family and did it all my himself... Sasuke is a genius but Neji is greater..
Neji is Genius.
The ONLY reason why sasuke got that good in 1 month is cuz he was trained by kakashi.
Who did Neji have?? NOBODY. THATS WHY HE OWNZ JOO SASUKE. he coulda been even faster than sasuke if he was trained by kakashi.
64 hands > chidori
kaiten > speed
359degrees of sight OWNZ that running and circling around shit.
Quick question. In Sakura's fight with Ino, she was able to speed herself up by focusing Chakra at her feet. Is it possible that Sasuke sped himself up by focusing Chakra at his feet, and didn't really need to use Taijitsu. I thought Kakashi said that it took a month for Sasuke to get fast enough, or did he say that it took a month for Sasuke to learn Taijitsu? Rock lee only made an observation on Sasuke's speed.
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Originally posted by: IamSpazzy
Quick question. In Sakura's fight with Ino, she was able to speed herself up by focusing Chakra at her feet. Is it possible that Sasuke sped himself up by focusing Chakra at his feet, and didn't really need to use Taijitsu. I thought Kakashi said that it took a month for Sasuke to get fast enough, or did he say that it took a month for Sasuke to learn Taijitsu? Rock lee only made an observation on Sasuke's speed.
Interesting point. However, I think it was said quite clearly that in Sasuke's training Kakashi focused on taijutsu specifically to get Sasuke's speed up.