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I think Rey and Dullindal are working on the same thing for the same reaons mostly because the way he act's around Dullindal and what he sayed when he shot at athrun
I dont think Rey is gay
we do know dolphins for instance do it and a lot more species to and indeed it is to some extent genetic in the human world but it is just one of the many factors that turn people gayQuote:
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Dude, if it was even remotely reoccuring, we'd know. Trust me.
yeah narutoMaster. Gilbert is probably some sort of Godfather to Rey. And btw Dullindal and Rey do not think that Kira is dead. Rey clearly says in episode 36 that Kira is not dead which surprises Dullindal a little bit as well. Then he talks about how if Athrun thinks he is dead in his heart, that it is almost good enough.
no i think he meant that as long as kira is alive in athrun's heart then he isn't dead, but he and dullindal thinks kira is dead physically
Yeah, AtHRunOwNZaLL is correct that is what he said, and I always thought homosexuality was due to damage to the brain caused by even the minutest of errors when removing the baby from the womb, which confuses your senses that cause you to be attracted to the opposite sex, causing you to become attracted to your own sex, or even both.
But then when Meyrin asks Athrun about the Archangel near the end of the episode he says it hasnt sunk, probably Kira as well. It seems like his hopes of Kira being alive have somehow been reconfirmed. It would seem that only Dullindal and Rey's conversation that Meer overheard could be the only possible reason.
no i think that athrun is assuming that archangel hasn't sunk cuz it doesn't go down that easily and he's hoping that kira survived too
I think it was because he heard the part about Kira being alive in his heart and that gave him renewed hope.
"untill Athrun kills him himself, he will always be alive in Athrun's heart"Quote:
Originally posted by: splash
But then when Meyrin asks Athrun about the Archangel near the end of the episode he says it hasnt sunk, probably Kira as well. It seems like his hopes of Kira being alive have somehow been reconfirmed. It would seem that only Dullindal and Rey's conversation that Meer overheard could be the only possible reason.
the above is more or less a literal quote of Rey's reaction to Dullindal saying that now Kira is dead Athrun would turn around (damn i think i may have lost everyone with that sentence)
and it was already confirmed that the Archangel wasn't sunk, atleast the senior officers knew about it, so it is possible that Athrun knows about it
and he did express a little doubt about Kira being alive
Maybe there is something wrong with the cellphone subs then coz the conversation goes like
Dullindal: But he no longer exists. Then....
Rey: No, he's alive. Unless he kills him with in his heart.
Now someone please explain this in detail because the way they subbed it wasnt really clear. Are they talking about Kira being alive in Athrun's heart, or Kira actually being alive. And then they talk about someone's whereabouts showing the pictures lunamaria took. Now are these Athrun's whereabouts or Kira's?
What i believed was that Rey knows that Kira is alive and is telling Dullindal that Athrun hasnt killed him in his heart either. I guess this is why Dullindal suggests it is a very troublesome situation because Athrun will definitely try to get in touch with the Archangel. And as for the whereabouts of the particular person, it has to be Kira because why would Dullindal be worried about Athrun's whereabouts as he is right at the base?
"no he's alive. unless he kills him within his heart"
is in the end the same as "untill Athrun kills him himself, he will always be alive in Athrun's heart"
because it basically means that as long Athrun remains his friend and/or doesn't actually see him die
he will always believe that Kira is alive
atleast that's how i thought they meant it to be taken
edit: also my previous quote (2 posts above this one) might have been slight off cause i did it on memory, i didn't actually rewatch the episode
my apologies for any misunderstandings that came forth because of it
yes i see your point about that but it still doesnt explain the talk Rey and Dullindal have immediately afterwards about someone's whereabouts.
well i just rewatched the episode from when Meer bursts into Athrun's room and thus you see the convo between Rey and Dullindal
and as far as i know and can due to the fansubbing is that they talk about acusing "him" (Athrun) and later on when Rey is in Legend Dullindal only says "i'll leave it up to you"
but then again i'm highly depending on what the fansubbers give me so because of different fansubbing groups there might be some misunderstandings
like we have here now
there talking about asuran they knew he wasnt in the hangar with the new gundamsQuote:
Originally posted by: splash
yes i see your point about that but it still doesnt explain the talk Rey and Dullindal have immediately afterwards about someone's whereabouts.
Rey And Duillandal are a deadly alliance or unholy whatever lifts you skirt
In the Haro^2Tori^2 sub Rey says, "Unless Athrun kills him himself, he'll always be alive in Athrun's heart." The Cellphone^2 guys are speedsubbing so they are gonna make a few mistakes with grammar, but I trust Haro^2Tori^2's accuracy.
Yep, thats what I meant by that. But either way, both Rey and Dullindal know for sure that Freedom is out of the picture and they know that without it, Kira can't participate in Dullindal's chess game (basically the war).Quote:
Originally posted by: AtHRunOwNZaLL
no i think he meant that as long as kira is alive in athrun's heart then he isn't dead, but he and dullindal thinks kira is dead physically
Rey is rocking the pink seatbelts in his gundam. And so is Shinn. I would pilot a gundam with pink seatbelts. They might as well have big puffy dice hanging from the rear view mirror and a low rider feature.
The pictures were of when Athrun (In savior) met Kira, Cagalli and Milli (i cant remember her name atm). It showed to Rey and Dullindal that Athrun still had ties to the AA crew and wasnt gonna abandon them. They were about Athrun's Whereabouts cause He was on leave, meeting with a suspected enemy.Quote:
Originally posted by: splash
Maybe there is something wrong with the cellphone subs then coz the conversation goes like
Dullindal: But he no longer exists. Then....
Rey: No, he's alive. Unless he kills him with in his heart.
Now someone please explain this in detail because the way they subbed it wasnt really clear. Are they talking about Kira being alive in Athrun's heart, or Kira actually being alive. And then they talk about someone's whereabouts showing the pictures lunamaria took. Now are these Athrun's whereabouts or Kira's?
Thats what i believed. My opinion was that Rey suspected that Kira is alive and well on ArchAngel only he doesnt have a MS to pilot and was saying so to Dullindal who considered that as a troublesome event so i guess i disagree with AtHRunOwNZaLL in saying that...I dont think Dullindal/Rey does think Kira is Dead, i know Shinn Does but i dont think Rey does...Quote:
Originally posted by: splash
What i believed was that Rey knows that Kira is alive and is telling Dullindal that Athrun hasnt killed him in his heart either. I guess this is why Dullindal suggests it is a very troublesome situation because Athrun will definitely try to get in touch with the Archangel. And as for the whereabouts of the particular person, it has to be Kira because why would Dullindal be worried about Athrun's whereabouts as he is right at the base?
Athrun lost faith with plant, so Orb is the logical place he would go...
Who wouldnt, id love one with Pink seatbelts...Quote:
Originally posted by: RoninChaos
Rey is rocking the pink seatbelts in his gundam. And so is Shinn. I would pilot a gundam with pink seatbelts. They might as well have big puffy dice hanging from the rear view mirror and a low rider feature.
Capt. Gladys is probably in on whatever Gil is scheming. Or is at least unaware enough and still a slave to his cock to be a proper puppet for him. And she also has to REPORT TO HIM as Chairman, so that's how Rey got the pictures.Quote:
Originally posted by: TheFlash
rey is gay period, i think the anime wouldn't say he's gay officially, but u get the point. i dont know what are his motives. but he seems like a bad guy, i dunno how he got the pictures of athrun, kira and co. talking. i dout they will mention anything about Rey, he's like GIL's puppet. i dont think GIL knows anything much sense the old mask dude was his mentor. i dout he know anything about war, or even fought in a actual war.
Oh, and Rey is so gay. WTF!?? He loucss likea girlzz withh loong hare n femminene face N....
Oh my god, almost EVERY MALE IN DESTINY LOOKS LIKE A CHICK YOU RETARD!!! (Seriously, its gotta be 1 normal looking dude to every feminine looking one.... and the feminine ones get a buttload of screentime (Athrun...) And when I say this, I don't mean that you can mistake them for females in teh show always. I merely mean that they have lots of femine characteristics like longish hair hanging in their face, no sign of Adam's apple, no facial hair etc.
I seriously don't think we know enough to determine Rey's sexual orientation. Besides, gay bad guys can be downright cool sometimes because they can totally creep out the main male character (Last Exile has a perfect example of this) or just be hilariously flaming (Fred Lowe, not an enemy, in Outlaw Star)
Back on topic... I concur that Rey is almost definetley Rau's clone, and was probably meant to carry on Rau's maniacal legacy. I have high hopes of his evilness moving him into the role of main villain by the series end and enjoy his silent nature, total respect for military authority and regulations, unwavering confidence in Gil, and select answers to questions and telling Athrun that he is an idiot.
I like the idea of Rey manipulating Shinn for Gil. Rey is certainyl smart enough and his relationship to Shinn puts him in a good spot to control and direct his actions.
Pink seatbelts are the source of my power!
Hey. I didn't notice the pink seatbelts.
Ok here's another thing to ponder. After the end of this episode, when Shinn and Lunamaria are crying (Very, VERY powerful scene) Rey just watches and walks away. You think that it's possible that he's gonna have a change of heart. I would hate for him to turn into this heartless bastard like Raww was. Personally, I believe he'll start to question himself...if he has any warmth in his heart.
Also, anyone notice that when a main character's gundam is destroyed, the cockpit is almost ALWAYS intact? At least in Destiny...Only exception that I can remember off the top of my head is Heine.
I think that Rey is the kind of guy that has his priorities set as such that his goal must not be disturbed no matter what. I am sure he feels for Shinn, Meyrin and the others (evident in scenes such as when he yells "LUNAMARIA!" when she gets hit in ep 28). But... his love for his friends is surpassed by his goals and admiration for the men who raised him. That's what I think anyway. He will definitely question himself, perhaps he already does, but the answer to what he'll do is probably clear.
Man, I know I've said it a million times, but Rey is so damn cool. Seriously, he is one of the key reasons to why Destiny in the end will probably turn out better than Seed. I wouldn't call Seed/Destiny's plot extremely predictable, but let's be fair, you can pretty easily figure out many things that will happen (due to logic & evident clues such as the openings mainly) but the thing with Rey is in a class of it's own. Hands down, who thought that Rey would turn out to be a villain? All of the series he has been built up as a good and smart guy, and now this? It's so damn good that it makes my body shake. Rey power!