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A) We`re serious yesQuote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
B) Best episode ever? i loled
C) It was far more than 4 seconds
D) Road runnder legs, Pain got nailed, Pain yelling like a retard, Kyuubi looked like the tazmanian devil at the beggining, the beyond retarded and humanly imposible expressions Pain did
E) Lazer and pewpew? a screen with fast changing colors would be just as entertaining
2/10 -.-
I definitely liked this episode but hated half the animation. I liked the pacing and where they were going with it, though. I say do the exact same episode and double the budget. It would be the best Naruto episode we've ever seen. As far as Pain taking those hard hits: remember, Nagato's not really taking any hits. I also bet that God Mode Pain is extra beefed up defence-wise because he is the strongest and is one Nagato would not want to lose during a fight.
That's some advanced structural modification there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam98034
If he can take a mountain landing on top of him, you wonder why he has to avoid damage at all.
Oh for the love of...
DON'T start trying to make sense of this, there is no plausible explanation for half the shit that went down. The animators just decided to get cheeky and experiment their asses out, it was almost all completely filler.
there is no plausible explanation for half of the shit that happens in the anime in the first place
I don't get why you complain about some extra action.
the "hammertime" scene made at least clear, that the pain bodies are no living beings. when naruto was able to take one body out by punshing it in the face before i was like "wtf? isn't it supossed to be some kind of zombie?"
During the Naruto vs Sasuke fight, Naruto had his neck broken etc. and nobody complained because KYUUBI POWA SOLVES!! right? pah
puppet pain was able to do shit too even though his body was totally smashed into pieces.
ya sry, probably 8 secondsQuote:
C) It was far more than 4 seconds
pain yelling like a "retard"?Quote:
Pain yelling like a retard, Kyuubi looked like the tazmanian devil at the beggining, the beyond retarded and humanly imposible expressions Pain did
if you are talking about the scene where he created the big rock in the sky,
that was probably one of the best/better and more realistic facial expression we've seen in Naruto
and there is absolutely nothing wrong with the how the kyuubi looked like
you know, I disliked that scene too (but I guess I'm the only one)Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
That's right but PuppetPain was a puppet. The others were chakra-controlled zombies. and if your bones or muscles are destroyed you can't move - even if you're a zombie (but of course I don't know any zombies, so I might be wrong) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
I'm inclined to think most of the Pains are more like flesh golems. A zombie is an autonomous entity, after all, even if all it does is wander around and indiscriminately attack all living beings in the hopes of catching some brains. Pains, however, seem to be simple extensions, that is, puppets, under Nagato's power and control. Jiraiya proved this by catching one and separating it from Nagato, which rendered the thing comatose.Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaticCat
Although this doesn't really change what you said. I believe there needs to be some structural integrity in the body, in addition to the rods, for Nagato to be able to control it. An all messed up pile bones and flesh would likely be out.
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayz
It would make no sense for them to be down from Jiraiya's swords otherwise.
This episode was certainly entertaining. Honestly only three things really bothered me, things that could have easily been avoided:
Meep Meep! Road-runner-Pain was a bit much, especially when you can see him later not moving his legs but simply flying with his feet skimming the ground. Would have been far better to go straight to that. We've already seen him fly, so it is not too far a stretch. Then again nobody seems to complain when the green beast loses his legs in a blur of motion. I think if the road runner didn't exist, this would have been more bearable.
The initial face-melting inertia effect was a bit much. I actually liked the stance and facial expression made when using 'Planetary Devastation'. The nose bleeding as well really fit in. The initial one though just seemed like crappy animation.
The amount of damage Pain was able to absorb with no effect. Specifically being hammered into the ground was, while funny, a bit much. He must have one hell of a spinal column to pull that off, or very sharp feet. Being crushed with little to no effect would have been more plausible. Love the way he used his flying ability to pull himself out of the ground.
Naruto seemed to do quite fine. All of his moves we've seen before in some form or other. We've seen the reaching hands and shape shifting effects against Orochimaru. We've also seen a stronger version of the fire ball effect against Orochimaru (when he ate the huge clump of chakra then vomited it back out in a blast of fire): not a far stretch that he can shoot smaller balls of fire at will, or maintain a precise continuous beam for a short time. Only problem I have with him is likely to be shown next episode: his flame retardant clothing!
One thing nobody is talking about is where Pain stores all his metal poles. I have my theories but there aren't many places you can cram almost two body-lengths worth of metal pole. I suppose he is a masochist, but is he really that big an asshole?
For the records, I hated this episode. The only portion of the manga I've read is the very first book (a gift from a friend). And I'm not much of an art critic - I've never once complained about or been bothered by an episode's animation. The fact of the matter is that even if this animation was a brilliant leap forward, its clear a large portion of the viewer base disliked it. Which means it was a mistake. Its one thing for fans to get upset over something that happens in a story, or over manga vs anime (since they have to add material to animate and no one will like it all) but to put out an episode like this that bothers so many fans purely due to the way they animated it is a mistake on the studio's part, plan and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by arondruiz
same with me, but i do not hate this episode at all. I just don't like the animation and the fact that they made Pain unbreakable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azonalanthious
I simply ask myself the question:
"Would this episode be just as good if the art was cleaned up?"
My answer is: most likely.
seriously guys, it's 1 episode out of 167. After they receive so much negative back-lash, they won't try it again, and we can all go back to having a never ending, repetitive series. 50 episodes down the line you won't even remember this happened...
I have to admit that an episode of Naruto isn't the best place for the creators to flex an artistic muscle, but I am disappointed that even though they thought to do it, it was so poorly received :\
I`m going to go for half the episode thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
Anime rule #45574: Just cause it`s more reallistic doesn`t means it looks good. This is a series about ninjas that can *insert random ninja technique here*, fuck realism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayz33
At the very beggining when he starts throwing rocks (i think?) he looks pretty much like Taz, i can`t be bothered to look into this sin of an episode again, so i`ll just take it back, the Kyuubi looked brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayz33
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8...uoanimatio.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3...uoanimatio.jpg
Kyuubi, superior animation at it`s finest.
and why do you complain about non realistic movements and such?Quote:
Anime rule #45574: Just cause it`s more reallistic doesn`t means it looks good. This is a series about ninjas that can *insert random ninja technique here*, fuck realism.
and again theres is nothing wrong with the kyuibi
it can change its form freely, so what?
its a fiery, formless, mass of hatred.
i thought it doesn't have to be realistic?
this episode had more style and better animation than 95% of what we saw in naruto so far.
the camera angles and the switches seen at 5:06-5:13 onwards forexample were totally well done. and the first half was full of thatQuote:
I`m going to go for half the episode thanks.
lol, bullshit a total realistic looking anime-series or movie, would be the perfection of animationQuote:
Anime rule #45574: Just cause it`s more reallistic doesn`t means it looks good
and realistic looks have nothing to do with realistic content.
To be fair it wasn`t realistic, it was silly and cartoony.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
He`s formless now? i always thought he was shaped as a fox and thus is referred as the nine tail demon fox, guess you learn something new every dayQuote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
I thought you liked it realistic? again, it wasn`t realistic, just silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
And then you woke upQuote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
Yeah... no, i won`t bother seeing the episode again as already stated.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrayZ33
I'm sorry, but didn't he survive a direct hit from Sage Naruto, who was shown lifting huge stones and sending boss summons flying? If he can survive a kick from Naruto or a punch from Sage Jiraiya mountains shouldn't be a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
He did? When?Quote:
Originally Posted by antiravage
And it's not like every single one of Sage Naruto's punches are capable of moving mountains. Remember how much effort they need (and time they need to gather energy) to lift a single toad statue?
If Sage punches where that powerful on their own there'd be no need to waste time charging Rasengans.
I enjoyed this episode. Was different. :)
Who cares if they looked like the road runner and the tasmanian devil. The fight and story was epic. I shouldnt say story, not much of it.
I thought the 3rd learned his death seal from the 4th? I thought the 3rd couldnt perform it as well as the 4th? So wouldnt the 4th's Death Seal be superior in some way? I thought the 4th created the Death Seal or am I wrong?
I've never heard of the 3rd being subpar at sealing than the 4th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Skill