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Originally posted by: cybercoin
Say whatever you want. Kira still lost from Shinn.
Kira completed his objectives and Shinn failed his. So who won and who lost isn't as easy to say as you may think. Given Shinn likely did remove Kira from future fights.
Didn't complete his objectives eh?
Oh really now, in the GSD I'm watching... Shinn's objectives was to shoot down Kira.
Too be more accurate, Shinn's objective was to KILL Kira (you have to admit that Shinn isn't the kind of person that would "moderate" his revenge for Stellar's death), not just shoot him down. Also I would say that Kira didn't complete his objective in a method he would have liked. Personally I would call it a draw in Shinn's favor at this point.Quote:
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Didn't complete his objectives eh?
Oh really now, in the GSD I'm watching... Shinn's objectives was to shoot down Kira.
Zafts objectives were to Destroy the AA and Freedom as well as Kira and anyone else who were aboard either one.Quote:
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Didn't complete his objectives eh?
Oh really now, in the GSD I'm watching... Shinn's objectives was to shoot down Kira.
If Kira lives and the AA is not destroyed then that means Shinn Failed.
Shinn's personal objective of get revenge on Kira has yet to be resolved until we know for sure what happened to freedom. However, unless Shinn is satisfied with damaging Kira's suit this objective remains failed.
not necessarily, Freedom was pretty much scrap metal after Shinn ran that sword through itQuote:
Originally posted by: DDBen
Zafts objectives were to Destroy the AA and Freedom as well as Kira and anyone else who were aboard either one.
If Kira lives and the AA is not destroyed then that means Shinn Failed.
since it couldn't pose much of a threat anymore
This depends largely on how much damage the sword did. I for one believe that it was directed to a nonvital area with the shield and as such its unlikely freedom took as much damage as Shinn thinks. Given I also doubt we will see Kira use Freedom again in GSD and instead it will be much like Athrun waiting for a suit that works for a bit.Quote:
Originally posted by: Motteh
not necessarily, Freedom was pretty much scrap metal after Shinn ran that sword through itQuote:
Originally posted by: DDBen
Zafts objectives were to Destroy the AA and Freedom as well as Kira and anyone else who were aboard either one.
If Kira lives and the AA is not destroyed then that means Shinn Failed.
since it couldn't pose much of a threat anymore
true
the sword alone might not have done much damage
but given the beating he received previous to it
i'd figure it wouldn't be easy repairing/restoring Freedom
and i seriously doubt that the Archangel would have enough supplies as to build half a mobile suit
This is correct but AA plans to head underwater straight for Orb so I would imagine that if they really wanted to they could repare Freedom at Orb given there resources and the fact thats where it was repaired after the final battle in Seed.Quote:
Originally posted by: Motteh
true
the sword alone might not have done much damage
but given the beating he received previous to it
i'd figure it wouldn't be easy repairing/restoring Freedom
and i seriously doubt that the Archangel would have enough supplies as to build half a mobile suit
their intention could indeed be to repair Freedom at OrbQuote:
Originally posted by: DDBen
This is correct but AA plans to head underwater straight for Orb so I would imagine that if they really wanted to they could repare Freedom at Orb given there resources and the fact thats where it was repaired after the final battle in Seed.
but i must say the latter of your statement might just be an assumption
since all i've seen is a completely repaired Freedom in a hangar in Orb
it could be repaired in space right after the battle but before they headed back to earth
but that in itself is nothing more then an assumption
and i must admit a far less likely assumption then yours
Bah, Kira might look all that cool on the outside but he's just a power crazed little guy. His thought process during the latest battle could as well have been something like this:
Ok here we go again, some n00bs tryina take down me ship, hah not in a thousand years!
Aha there's their daggers coming in as obnoxiously as ever...better go mow them down effortlessly like always..
*zap-slice-boom-ka-zhonk*
Heh, easy as ever...Notice how i'm just impairing their suits instead of totally annihilating them...A really great pilot like me should have morals like that. Now where'd they all go? Huh? No more? Oh, they resorted to bombarding now. Damn what are they doing in the AA getting hit like that? Ah fuck there's missiles now. Shooting down missiles is so fucking stupid. Can't they get a turret or something to do this? Oh well *zzzapp* that takes care of it.
Alright now we're almost safe...wait what the hell? Minerva coming at us? Ungrateful fucking bastards. I even saved them like twice with my uber leet marksmanship. That Athrun whore is probably in there too. Whatever, you're with me or against me, bring it on...
Oh it's only that strike ripoff thing this time. I'm not supposed to kill and stuff but this guy is simply beyond redemption. Die! *slice* WTF? didn't work? aargh it split in pieces! Noo they're kamikzeing on me and shooting point blank with CIWS! Omg now they grew back! Oh fuck my suit is totally ruined! Damnit pull together now...someone as elite as I should not fear---OHGOD IT HAS HUGE ASS FRIGGIN' SWORDS NOW AND COMING RIGHT AT ME! NOOO *booooom*
yeah thats right. he wasn't worried about the archangel or anything, just trembling with fear of losing and dying!
ok, probably it wasn't intended like that, but i'm bored and don't like kira much.
i actually found your post refreshing to read Aramis
it's much lighter in content than all the other posts
i bet you never understand everything do u zzz
aramis your post kinda.............................WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY...
from your post i could see that your a retarded fucking kid that did not even manage to see the obvious...pathetic
if you get a kick out of flaming someone and do not understand either irony nor sarcasm please go to a forum where they consider flaming to be fun[img]i/expressions/rolleye.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by: qilinkiddo
i bet you never understand everything do u zzz
aramis your post kinda.............................WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY...
from your post i could see that your a retarded fucking kid that did not even manage to see the obvious...pathetic
Aramis I might not agree with that but none the less it was funny.
Aramis, that was some funny shit you pulled there. Keep those coming man it lightens up the whole thread.
I like Shinn and I'll tell you why. Aren't you guys tired of these goody two shoes heroes?
Like in DBZ I couldn't stand goku.. he was too good. Vegita was far more interesting as he wasn't good but he wasn't bad either.
IMO the anti-hero is much more interesting. Flawed characters are much more interesting cause they're more like real people.
And let me say if you don't already know... Shinn is a flawed character... and he's meant to be like that. For example, his conviction against ORB to me is a lot more interesting than Kira's "Don't you see? Cagalli is crying! Time for me to go berzerk." That's just lame.
I like Kira because he developed from a crybaby to this silent stonecold annihalator. And going berzerk isn't really what he is doing, he is calmer than ever and i like calmness. I can't stand those screamy overly confident fag boys that run around everywhere, trust me i have encountered a bunch of them in real life and they suck. Cockyness is the worst attitude someone can have and Shinn is cocky.
The comparasion with the DBZ characters doesn't really work as they are one dimensional. For example Goku is either really happy or really mad and when he is mad he screams and the ngoes back to happy.
WHY the hell do people compare everything with DBZ!! Knock it off!! Its like, every anime was made based on DBZ. Everyones like this:Quote:
Originally posted by: Vegita
I like Shinn and I'll tell you why. Aren't you guys tired of these goody two shoes heroes?
Like in DBZ I couldn't stand goku.. he was too good. Vegita was far more interesting as he wasn't good but he wasn't bad either.
IMO the anti-hero is much more interesting. Flawed characters are much more interesting cause they're more like real people.
"Hey! Lacus has pink hair"
"OMFG!! Just like Bulma in DBZ. They both have weird hair colors!!!!"
"O_o Dat is sooo cool"
Wouldn't you want to protect your sister when she's in pain?Quote:
Originally posted by: Vegita
And let me say if you don't already know... Shinn is a flawed character... and he's meant to be like that. For example, his conviction against ORB to me is a lot more interesting than Kira's "Don't you see? Cagalli is crying! Time for me to go berzerk." That's just lame.
We don't need to watch cocky, "real-life" characters on anime shows. We have enough real-life people with the same annoying attitudes outside of t.v. [like PSJ said]
[Shinn Fan: wow, Shinn's annoying as hell, but he's so realistic!
Shinn type person: You F****** f*g, I'll kill you and get my revenge!
meh...I'm obviously a Kira lover, Shinn hater, but Aramis' post was hilarious]
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Originally posted by: Aramis
Bah, Kira might look all that cool on the outside but he's just a power crazed little guy. His thought process during the latest battle could as well have been something like this:
Ok here we go again, some n00bs tryina take down me ship, hah not in a thousand years!
Aha there's their daggers coming in as obnoxiously as ever...better go mow them down effortlessly like always..
*zap-slice-boom-ka-zhonk*
Heh, easy as ever...Notice how i'm just impairing their suits instead of totally annihilating them...A really great pilot like me should have morals like that. Now where'd they all go? Huh? No more? Oh, they resorted to bombarding now. Damn what are they doing in the AA getting hit like that? Ah fuck there's missiles now. Shooting down missiles is so fucking stupid. Can't they get a turret or something to do this? Oh well *zzzapp* that takes care of it.
Alright now we're almost safe...wait what the hell? Minerva coming at us? Ungrateful fucking bastards. I even saved them like twice with my uber leet marksmanship. That Athrun whore is probably in there too. Whatever, you're with me or against me, bring it on...
Oh it's only that strike ripoff thing this time. I'm not supposed to kill and stuff but this guy is simply beyond redemption. Die! *slice* WTF? didn't work? aargh it split in pieces! Noo they're kamikzeing on me and shooting point blank with CIWS! Omg now they grew back! Oh fuck my suit is totally ruined! Damnit pull together now...someone as elite as I should not fear---OHGOD IT HAS HUGE ASS FRIGGIN' SWORDS NOW AND COMING RIGHT AT ME! NOOO *booooom*
yeah thats right. he wasn't worried about the archangel or anything, just trembling with fear of losing and dying!
ok, probably it wasn't intended like that, but i'm bored and don't like kira much.
I gotta hand it to you, with jokes like that, you could become one hell of a comedian someday...
Have you seen Gundam Seed, for if you have, then you know that Kira isn't the kind of person who thinks he is better than anyone else.