The Triumvirate

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Originally posted by: Naruto_RNG
all three of them together. u kidding right. they would be way overpowered. no matter how much MS they send it all get destroyed. Athuran and Kira are more then enough in one team. they don't need a third retarded pilot (Shinn) to slow them down. we already know who's the main character of the GSD NOW. I rather see Kira die then fight along side Shinn.

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Wow.......

I keep on thinking that I have defined what a Retard is, but wow, I have today had to reexamine my former definition of a retard thanks to your post. How do you I accurately describe how mind numbing your opinion on this matter is? I'm sorry, I should leave it at that. Please, atleast know what your talking about before posting, to save the thinking majority of this board from the spread of your stupidity.

OWNED!

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Originally posted by: KapsLocked

!. Learn to spell. ^^ Please. But that's besides the point.

I'd have to disagree with you about Freedom being less powerful than Impulse. The Impulse has a tactical advantage in that it has multiple parts, but it doesn't have as much power as Freedom.

Given, if I wanted to be able to keep a gundam, I'd want an Impulse with an infinite amount of parts also - that's more practical than having to always try and fix the same gundam even though it may be very powerful. ^^

(And folks, THAT is not my opinion about Shinn vs. Kira. ToT)

I personally would like it if the three of them would work together - it doesn't mean that only one person takes center stage. It's more interesting with the whole slew of characters anyways - you get a bigger picture of what's going on.

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I know my spelling suck's but I was a bit tired

and I was talking about Strike not Freedom

Mmk. It's all good.

Anyways, you KNOW they're going to make it so they somehow work together in the end. That's the happy ending! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img] Just kidding though. I do like the way they've presented the story this time around through the point of view of who you can say are the "bad" guys. The only problem is that GS: D feels is SUCH a sequel. It seems a lot less planned out and more over the top than the original.

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Originally posted by: NineTailsKitsu

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Originally posted by: Naruto_RNG
all three of them together. u kidding right. they would be way overpowered. no matter how much MS they send it all get destroyed. Athuran and Kira are more then enough in one team. they don't need a third retarded pilot (Shinn) to slow them down. we already know who's the main character of the GSD NOW. I rather see Kira die then fight along side Shinn.

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Wow.......

I keep on thinking that I have defined what a Retard is, but wow, I have today had to reexamine my former definition of a retard thanks to your post. How do you I accurately describe how mind numbing your opinion on this matter is? I'm sorry, I should leave it at that. Please, atleast know what your talking about before posting, to save the thinking majority of this board from the spread of your stupidity.

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the Retard, and stupid is u. u don't even know what the hell i'm talking about.

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Originally posted by: Naruto_RNG

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Originally posted by: NineTailsKitsu

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Originally posted by: Naruto_RNG
all three of them together. u kidding right. they would be way overpowered. no matter how much MS they send it all get destroyed. Athuran and Kira are more then enough in one team. they don't need a third retarded pilot (Shinn) to slow them down. we already know who's the main character of the GSD NOW. I rather see Kira die then fight along side Shinn.

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Wow.......

I keep on thinking that I have defined what a Retard is, but wow, I have today had to reexamine my former definition of a retard thanks to your post. How do you I accurately describe how mind numbing your opinion on this matter is? I'm sorry, I should leave it at that. Please, atleast know what your talking about before posting, to save the thinking majority of this board from the spread of your stupidity.

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the Retard, and stupid is u. u don't even know what the hell i'm talking about.

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Right....I think I have the general idea your trying to get across, something like: "OMG! Athrun x Kira own all! Wah! Shinn and Rey are gay lovers that need to die!! HAHAHA, OWN!!".

Anyway, I think that they're continuing to do what they've done since the start of GSD, splitting between 3 main characters, not one main. But oh yes, the picture of Kira/Athrun/Shinn obviously shows who the main character is....Lol.

Dude, stop the gay bashing.

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Originally posted by: fox_t

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Originally posted by: Deamon007

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Originally posted by: fox_t
How come everyone calls Kira overpowered yet Shinn was the one who destroyed who fleets with a supposed inferior Gundam?

Shinn is also the only character in GSD to have never lost a battle or an MS...and episode one was the first time Shinn had been in battle...I`m not saying he`s overpowered...but a lot of you guys seem to cry about certain characters (namely Kira) being invincible...so i`m just pointing out the facts.

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the only reason Shin didnt lose a MS is because his Impulse has an infinite amount of parts if you were to count thenmber of parts that he lost than he would have lost 10 if not more MS's

and taking out a fleet with a superior gundam doesent say anything in gundam seed Kira fought evenly agenst 4 equally powerfull suits piloted by red-coats while he didnt even had basic trianing

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How can that be the only reason...because he has a million parts...

Strike has lost arms and legs...heck it was blown to a million pieces by Athrun...so no...your infinite part defence doesn`t hold any water...

Kira fought 4 equally powerful suits and only managed to destroy one...Shinn killed two extended (a feat that Kira didn`t even accomplish in GS)...he managed to take out 4 of the 5 Destroy Gundams...he destroyed the EAF and Orb fleet....Took out Freedom...beat Athrun...and all this before the 40th episode...

i really don`t have a problem with it...but there seems to be alot of people on this board who like to cry and complain about Kira...I`m just pointing out the fact that Shinn`s body count is the highest of anyone...and he`s undefeated...sorry...i don`t count Freedom streaking past him and removing his arm as a loss...

A lot of people seem to be complaining about this series...if it bothers you that much...than stop watching...otherwise just enjoy the story...it`s not like anybody here has never seen another gundam series...invincible pilots come with the territory.

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You can't really compare Stirke to Impulse on he ability to change parts. Impulse is pretty much built completly from smaller parts while Strike was an MS that had different battle armaments. Anytime a piece of Impulse is destroyed it can be replaced midbattle, with Stirke the only parts replaceable are the batterypack/specific weapon set up. For example, if Strike were to lose a leg in battle it could not be replaced on the spot like it could with Impulse. This aside I don't believe this is the only reason why Shinn has never lost a MS. I think that reason is that so far he has only fought 2 people who could possibly beat him. The first was Kira who was not trying to kill Shinn, and the second was Athrun but he was only in a grunt suit at the time of the fight. If anyone one is going to defeat Shinn I assume it will be one of these 2 since a side character beating a main in battle would be a little weird at this point.

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Originally posted by: Freki
You can't really compare Stirke to Impulse on he ability to change parts. Impulse is pretty much built completly from smaller parts while Strike was an MS that had different battle armaments. Anytime a piece of Impulse is destroyed it can be replaced midbattle, with Stirke the only parts replaceable are the batterypack/specific weapon set up. For example, if Strike were to lose a leg in battle it could not be replaced on the spot like it could with Impulse. This aside I don't believe this is the only reason why Shinn has never lost a MS. I think that reason is that so far he has only fought 2 people who could possibly beat him. The first was Kira who was not trying to kill Shinn, and the second was Athrun but he was only in a grunt suit at the time of the fight. If anyone one is going to defeat Shinn I assume it will be one of these 2 since a side character beating a main in battle would be a little weird at this point.

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And you essentially have proven my point...only 2 characters who can possibly beat Shinn...Kira (who doesn`t kill) and Athrun (who up until recently was on his side)...

If you`re going to whine about characters being invincible you should whine about all the characters who are invincible...

instead of localizing the argument against Kira...there are many more...

that`s all i`m trying to say...

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Originally posted by: fox_t

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Originally posted by: Freki
You can't really compare Stirke to Impulse on he ability to change parts. Impulse is pretty much built completly from smaller parts while Strike was an MS that had different battle armaments. Anytime a piece of Impulse is destroyed it can be replaced midbattle, with Stirke the only parts replaceable are the batterypack/specific weapon set up. For example, if Strike were to lose a leg in battle it could not be replaced on the spot like it could with Impulse. This aside I don't believe this is the only reason why Shinn has never lost a MS. I think that reason is that so far he has only fought 2 people who could possibly beat him. The first was Kira who was not trying to kill Shinn, and the second was Athrun but he was only in a grunt suit at the time of the fight. If anyone one is going to defeat Shinn I assume it will be one of these 2 since a side character beating a main in battle would be a little weird at this point.

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And you essentially have proven my point...only 2 characters who can possibly beat Shinn...Kira (who doesn`t kill) and Athrun (who up until recently was on his side)...

If you`re going to whine about characters being invincible you should whine about all the characters who are invincible...

instead of localizing the argument against Kira...there are many more...

that`s all i`m trying to say...

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i agree 100%.

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Originally posted by: Deamon007

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Originally posted by: fox_t

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Originally posted by: fox_t
How come everyone calls Kira overpowered yet Shinn was the one who destroyed who fleets with a supposed inferior Gundam?

Shinn is also the only character in GSD to have never lost a battle or an MS...and episode one was the first time Shinn had been in battle...I`m not saying he`s overpowered...but a lot of you guys seem to cry about certain characters (namely Kira) being invincible...so i`m just pointing out the facts.

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the only reason Shin didnt lose a MS is because his Impulse has an infinite amount of parts if you were to count thenmber of parts that he lost than he would have lost 10 if not more MS's

and taking out a fleet with a superior gundam doesent say anything in gundam seed Kira fought evenly agenst 4 equally powerfull suits piloted by red-coats while he didnt even had basic trianing

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How can that be the only reason...because he has a million parts...

Strike has lost arms and legs...heck it was blown to a million pieces by Athrun...so no...your infinite part defence doesn`t hold any water...

Kira fought 4 equally powerful suits and only managed to destroy one...Shinn killed two extended (a feat that Kira didn`t even accomplish in GS)...he managed to take out 4 of the 5 Destroy Gundams...he destroyed the EAF and Orb fleet....Took out Freedom...beat Athrun...and all this before the 40th episode...

i really don`t have a problem with it...but there seems to be alot of people on this board who like to cry and complain about Kira...I`m just pointing out the fact that Shinn`s body count is the highest of anyone...and he`s undefeated...sorry...i don`t count Freedom streaking past him and removing his arm as a loss...

A lot of people seem to be complaining about this series...if it bothers you that much...than stop watching...otherwise just enjoy the story...it`s not like anybody here has never seen another gundam series...invincible pilots come with the territory.

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1 yes it does because Shin basicly got a new Gundam during the batles giving him a big advantage over all the other pilots Kira on the other hand had just one complete Gundam every batle

2 Shin is a trained militairy pilot Kira was a suvilian that didn't want to kill anyone and his suit was a lot less powerfull compared to Impulse

3 getting your suit dissabeled is a loss considering it would have been easyer for Kira to kill him

4 I'm not complaining about the show infackt I love it but this is just my perspective on things

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1) exactly and we're talking about people being overpowered...how come Shinn has the only suit in any fleet that can replace parts on the fly.

2) so what...

3) considering Shinn can just replace parts on the fly...sorry i don't consider time constraints on the show as a reason for counting it as a loss...as we saw later in Freedom vs. Impulse Shinn lost his head and left arm...and easily replaced it...like i said...losing parts does not count as a loss or losing an MS

4) you may not be complaining but there sure are a lot of people on this board who seem to...it takes away from the discussion when u can't raise a point without some retard calling you a kira fanboy...especially when they're clearly fanboys of other characters on the show...

Ah i completly agree with point number 4 in Fox_t's post. It's sad to see Shinn fanboys crying at Kira fanboys. Why don't everyone stop the crying and try to post some valid replies instead.

As i like Kira more than Shinn at this point it tires me to read "oh go fuck yourself kira fanboy i love Shinn!" everywhere, that's basicly what you can find between the lines in many posts.

Oh well i'll stop my rant right here as it will probably do nothing.

i think most of the characters in seed/destiny has f***** up personalities.
in seed kira being a sook and whiney lil brat
athrun is ... hmm dont know? haven't really takn much notice in him much in seed or destiny
and shin is just a total p*** being an arrogrant king dick who think his always right and has to get his way, his prob on even pars with cagalli at being bloody annoying or even worse.

as for skills, i say kira hands down..

Really people, how long can you go on criticizing other people, and especially anime characters--They DON'T exist. Further, many of you are talking out of your *you know what* instead of really giving some thought into the lives of the characters. I mean, put yourself in Kira's, Shinn's, and Athuran's shoes before you call each respective character weak, whimpy, dumb, retarded or whatever it may be. There is no reason whatsoever for you to abhor any of these characters, and if you do then judge urself first. Like Jesus said, he who has not sinned let him be the first to cast a stone! We all have defects, we all are different/unique, that is what makes life so interesting. So if you do not like a certain character, fine, but don't take it out with other people. And for those who retaliate, don't stoop down to that person's level. For crying out loud, I just wish that all the main characters bit the dust so that way all this discussion would end. I don't know, maybe a blackhole sucks everyone up [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].

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Originally posted by: fox_t
How come everyone calls Kira overpowered yet Shinn was the one who destroyed who fleets with a supposed inferior Gundam?

Shinn is also the only character in GSD to have never lost a battle or an MS...and episode one was the first time Shinn had been in battle...I`m not saying he`s overpowered...but a lot of you guys seem to cry about certain characters (namely Kira) being invincible...so i`m just pointing out the facts.

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the only reason Shin didnt lose a MS is because his Impulse has an infinite amount of parts if you were to count thenmber of parts that he lost than he would have lost 10 if not more MS's

and taking out a fleet with a superior gundam doesent say anything in gundam seed Kira fought evenly agenst 4 equally powerfull suits piloted by red-coats while he didnt even had basic trianing

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How can that be the only reason...because he has a million parts...

Strike has lost arms and legs...heck it was blown to a million pieces by Athrun...so no...your infinite part defence doesn`t hold any water...

Kira fought 4 equally powerful suits and only managed to destroy one...Shinn killed two extended (a feat that Kira didn`t even accomplish in GS)...he managed to take out 4 of the 5 Destroy Gundams...he destroyed the EAF and Orb fleet....Took out Freedom...beat Athrun...and all this before the 40th episode...

i really don`t have a problem with it...but there seems to be alot of people on this board who like to cry and complain about Kira...I`m just pointing out the fact that Shinn`s body count is the highest of anyone...and he`s undefeated...sorry...i don`t count Freedom streaking past him and removing his arm as a loss...

A lot of people seem to be complaining about this series...if it bothers you that much...than stop watching...otherwise just enjoy the story...it`s not like anybody here has never seen another gundam series...invincible pilots come with the territory.

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1 yes it does because Shin basicly got a new Gundam during the batles giving him a big advantage over all the other pilots Kira on the other hand had just one complete Gundam every batle

2 Shin is a trained militairy pilot Kira was a suvilian that didn't want to kill anyone and his suit was a lot less powerfull compared to Impulse

3 getting your suit dissabeled is a loss considering it would have been easyer for Kira to kill him

4 I'm not complaining about the show infackt I love it but this is just my perspective on things

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1) exactly and we're talking about people being overpowered...how come Shinn has the only suit in any fleet that can replace parts on the fly.

2) so what...

3) considering Shinn can just replace parts on the fly...sorry i don't consider time constraints on the show as a reason for counting it as a loss...as we saw later in Freedom vs. Impulse Shinn lost his head and left arm...and easily replaced it...like i said...losing parts does not count as a loss or losing an MS

4) you may not be complaining but there sure are a lot of people on this board who seem to...it takes away from the discussion when u can't raise a point without some retard calling you a kira fanboy...especially when they're clearly fanboys of other characters on the show...

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3 I meniont this because if a suit can get new parts during a fight the only way to take it down is to completly destroy it in one atack and when your suit can't get new parts it's seriously weakend when it loses a arm or leg

4 I completly agree with you on this point

quit mass quoting!

shinn is narrow mind, self centred and a little dumb(get serious at the wrong time and be kind to the wrong pple)
athrun indecisive but righteous.
kira is irritating, cries too much, but kind-hearted and OWNS BIG TIME

see the winner?

Shinn takes pride in power and victory while athrun would think of them as a burden, and Kira only accept it to save lives.
Shinn kills anything that gets in the way, Athrun can never make up his mind if it's right to kill at the moment, while Kira feels reponsible for all the deaths in the world.
Shinn lives in the now, caring about whatever his impulsive mind is focused on at the moment, everything else is expendable. Athrun always takes the most fair and just path, even if it was to kill himself. Kira's out to protect any good-willed people and failure is not an option.

And I prefer Shinn...he should have his way! *drives anti-ship swords through everyone*

I also don't really like Kira at all. In fact, since he started showing up more and more in Destiny I despise him... I feel like his character is stuck and that he hasn't developed or changed at all since Seed, which really pisses me off.

Shinn has his flaws and can be a whiny arrogant brat sometimes, but I like that about him because I imagine most aces of his caliber would be the exact same way. His flaws are actually what endears him to some people.

Athrun is a mixed bag, way too thoughtful and nice at times, sometimes just as stubborn and enthused about his ideals as Kira can be.

I like Rey and Deakka. I would have voted for them...

Besides, these 3 guys are just too good in a Gundam, always get the best models (especially annoying in Kira's case) and all three of them should probably be dead. I think Kira's near-death incident was the biggest BS ever, but Athrun was insanely lucky too. What I found especially annoying is that the almost same thing happened in Seed, with Kira apparently dying, Athrun getting upset, and then later coming back and being on Kira's side...

VOTE FOR SHINN!

There is no need for Kira to develop any further, he has reached his potential as an individual. Kira is the way he is because he did kill people, though he didn't want to; he was forced to walk down a path he did not choose, rather it was forced upon him under circumstances; he did not see the point in war and fighting, he had to find some meaning to all the madness going on in the war; he lost people he cared about though he tried to protect them, that is why he protects everyone now. Think of it like this, Kira reached spirtual enlightenment (like the Budha) after he ended up with Lacus. While with her, he lost his will to fight. However, after losing his will he regained it with a purpose, to protect. Now hating on Kira is like hating on Jesus for the way he was, it just doesn't make sense. I understand not everyone thinks alike, further not everyone can understand such concepts or believe such things as enlightenment, but there are those who do and have experienced them. So KIRA is the best, and that is all there is to it. I believe Shinn might reach a point of enlightenment as well, but who knows with the amount of episodes that are left.