There's no way Gon is going to attack Pitou while she's still healing Komugi. Unless he misjudges the scenario somehow and he thinks she's doing to her what she did to Kite instead of healing her.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
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There's no way Gon is going to attack Pitou while she's still healing Komugi. Unless he misjudges the scenario somehow and he thinks she's doing to her what she did to Kite instead of healing her.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Iīd hate you being right. It has been teased that Gon turns into a little piece of hate and nothing else when it comes to Pitou. What I want to see now is him going at her without thinking of anybody else. Even forgetting about Killua. Heīs here to kill, to end this bitchcunt that murdered his friend. This is not a time for typical emotions, no time for including other people. Itīs Gon. And itīs Pitou. And thatīs it. Thatīs what I want to see.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
Fuck Komugi.
Then he wouldn't be Gon anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
I'm not even sure why you assume he hates her. The other characters have been describing it as a kind of grim focus, not hatred.
Except he doesn't think Kite is really dead. Remember that Gon still thinks beating Pitou is going to release Kite. He thinks he's saving Kite, not avenging him.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Really? I thought that Gon thinks that killing Nef will release Kite from control and he can finally rest in peace.
Thatīs exactly what makes it so exciting. The whole situation is not-Gon. And yet it IS him. Thatīs why weīve seen this super dark, grim look on his face for some episodes now. I believe and hope that Gon will fight Pitou in a way thats uncalled for his usual nature. At least once he learns that Kite is dead for good.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
That wasn't the impression I got.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
I'm pretty sure he used the actual term "saving Kite" multiple times. I don't think Gon thinks Kite is dead(and really, there's no reason for him to, nobody but the audience knows how dead he was), and he thinks if he releases Pitou's control, he'll go back to being himself.
Pretty much everything that's happened in this series has happened because Gon is the way he is. If he stopped being that, I'd lose interest in the character. If you have to betray who the character is to make something "interesting" then you aren't a very good writer.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Do WE even know that? I mean, we really don't know how Pitou's power works.Quote:
Originally Posted by MFauli
Yeah, he was dead, and the obvious conclusion is that he's just a zombified puppet now. But Nen can do anything the writer wants it too, maybe he really WILL go back to his old self if Pitou is defeated. We don't really know yet.
He might be better off dead. I mean, how pitiful would it be to get defeated by a practically newborn enemy, only to get resurrected by the same enemy to be a puppet, and then finally be saved by two kids he was training just a little while ago and judging far from ready to face the very same enemy. He would need more than a few bottles of booze to get over that chain of events.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
Then thatīs where weīre disagreeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
Having a character behave out-of-character for a single event only makes that character more interesting in my eyes. Especially when thereīs a perfectly fine excuse, like having a dear friend bein killed (or something close to it). One could argue that Gonīs permanent happy-go-lucky attitude is annoying at times, so seeing him being forced out of his own comfort zone is something Iīm more than looking forward to.
Such a moment of "losing yourself" can then later be used for further plot progression, too.
Thatīs how I see it, anyway.
Well, I have no problem with the whole "sudden realization of something horrible sends you into a berzerker rage" aspect.
But that's not what's happening here. Gon's known about Kite for weeks. He has the opportunity to see what's happening before the fight starts. There's no "temporary insane rage" excuse at play here. He'd be making a conscious choice to betray the beliefs around which the entire series is founded.
My assumption is that Gon has been in a "Berserk rage mode" all the time ever since waking up after Killua knocked him out and carried him away from where Pitou attacked Kite. Itīs not your generic shounen-rage shit, but some growing feeling inside Gon that never left, but only now shows once heīll face Pitou directly. Thatīs what I think, at least.
The way Gonīs expression has been going completely blank and dark and black from when he stepped into the battle field makes me think that. Heīs got the look of a killer, reminiscent of Killuaīs old self. And Killua noticed that and seems to act as the one who will pull back Gon when necessary. Heīs the cool one. "The" Gon has been gone for a few episodes now.
Weīll see if Iīm right or not.
I'm just gonna throw this out there.
People (and anime characters) can change. I'm not saying Gon did, but they do.
Aside from what the shounen textbook will make Gon do in this particular case, I don't think his general personality is as much happy-go-lucky as it's doing whatever he wants to do or feels is the right thing to do (purely according to his own values; he doesn't give a damn about some preacher's morals, justice or other lofty things). He's not so unlike Hisoka with the exception of valuing his friends greatly, and naturally having somewhat different interests. And that's great.
In other words, if he wants to attack Pitou in a berserker rage right away, he can do it. It wouldn't change his personality as such. However, as a person who values his friends, he might not entirely ignore Komugi. It would depend on how he views her existence.
I feel like we haven't even been watching the same series.
I'm not saying he didn't. But a character changing is only good if the character wasn't already awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
Gon is awesome.
Maybe too awesome!
They won't automatically assume that killing Pitou will release Kite. Everyone knows that Nen can linger. A few episodes ago they (or the narrator at least) wondered at whether a dead Meleoron would stay invisible. With the same logic, a dead Pitou could mean a zombiefied Kite.
Gon will need to beat Pitou into submission, but I don't think he's got the luxury of pulling punches. He needs to go all out regardless.
Well, I've resumed watching HxH after stopping at the end of Greed Island... a few more episodes in and just saw what happened to Ponzu which I had completely forgotten about. Quite sad, one of my favorite characters in the Hunter Exam.
Yep. All of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
I don't think Gon seriously needs to worry that if he hits Pitou TOO hard he'll kill her. It'll probably take a whole bunch of "ultimate attacks" just to drop her.
I think Gon should worry a little more about surviving. Nef is going to hand his ass to him otherwise.
We have seen these ants are remarkably hard to slay, short of destroying the head, so he has lots of leeway. Well, even destroying the head would leave the body functional for an amount of time, but asking questions or making requests might be quite difficult...Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthEnderX
I'm still not quite clear on what you guys are actually debating that is out of character for Gon.