lol omg some1 has some issues, nice first post and name though [/sarcasm]
if you had not noticed, the topic is named nex gen system, the pc is never a next gen system cause it gets constantly upgraded, btw the xbox360 will be about 300$, maybe a bit more but not much, a decent gaming pc will cost you at least 4 times that price, plz dont post stupid rant like that ne more
The graphics chip in a PS3 is more powerful than any PC of today and hasnt even been released to the PC market yet same with the Xbox 360And also shut up about how great the technology on PS3 is going to be. The hardware specs of the PS3 aren't even as good as a sub-par gaming PC in 2003. In fact, if it weren't for the PC then your stupid little consoles wouldn't even exist. Every new piece of console hardware technology is nothing more than second-rate PC components that have been out for at least two generations.
The PC has just as much to owe to consoles as they do to the PC; consoles helped more developers flourish and be created allowing developers to branch out to a broader audience. The PCs growth wouldnt be where it has come without consoles period.
But like, the PC mouse and keyboard are like so like better than the controllers on consoles, like FPS arent even meant to be on consoles! haha
Anyways, back to next gen game systems
So far the only games that really interest me right now I believe are Gears of War, and Dead Rising... other than that not too impressed.
damn mut....i wish my mom sent me free consoles. Does she wipe your face after feeding you a bowl full of spaghettios too?
I'll realize PS2 has great games when i decide that i want to fit in with the console fanboy crowd
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Come on. The PS2 has a stunning library of fucking amazing first and third party games. Considering it's spawned just about every genre revolution of this generation except in FPS', I'd say the PS2 is an inarguably strong system.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
I'll realize PS2 has great games when i decide that i want to fit in with the console fanboy crowd
Y hit the nail, PS2 has great games except in the field of FPS. Nintendo has a FEW games that have caught my eye, most of them zelda games. Sharoon, i wont argue that zelda games arent good, but hell if you acctually think revolution will own PS3, your a fucking idiot.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
Remind me to laugh my ass off, or roll on the floor laughing, depending on the severity of how badly Revolution does end up owning PS3. Then I'll take the liberty to take a shit on you and your PS3, you fucking douche.Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
Sharoon, i wont argue that zelda games arent good, but hell if you acctually think revolution will own PS3, your a fucking idiot.
PS3 game development will make developers want to change their careers. The Cell is so overrated and you can see how afraid Sony is by embracing open source "technologies" ... as if it's going to help any (if it would, PS3 could've very easily functioned as a broadband router but they ended up scrapping that functionality).
Revolution is going to be truly backwards compatible because not only will it play your GameCube games (which is a good reason as any to pick up Resident Evil 4), it's also going to let you download the extensive library of first-party games ranging from the NES to N64 eras. And with Revolution and DS both having built-in Wi-Fi functionality, Nintendo's broadband-enabled solution will simply overwhelm PS3 and PSP. And as if that wasn't enough, the Revolution is the first to extend a helping hand to independent game developers. One would think that's what open source development libraries would do, but I guess that didn't work out for Sony.
Wait, why the fuck did I just evangelize to you? You suck.
hmm....lets see........Originally posted by: Y
Come on. The PS2 has a stunning library of fucking amazing first and third party games. Considering it's spawned just about every genre revolution of this generation except in FPS', I'd say the PS2 is an inarguably strong system.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
I'll realize PS2 has great games when i decide that i want to fit in with the console fanboy crowd
RPG......
Music (DDR, Amplitude, etc).......
Yep, that pretty much covers it for spawning genre revolutions
and thats it.
Most other hit PS2 games are also on other consoles....
Maybe if you and Mut weren't so busy sucking each other's cocks in the IRC channel, i could've lurked up something that would better support your argument than the lame PS2 fanboy approach of (OMG YOU LIKE NINTENDO THEREFORE YOU = 8 YEARS OLD). Way to reel in the win fellas. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
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Naturally, you leave out the most influential console game of this generation, Grand Theft Auto III (and Halo, hurr). The freeform nature of that game hadn't been done on anywhere near that scale, and while the sequels just tweak the formula it's impossible to deny the influence that game will have for the next decade of design. It's the Super Mario 64 of this console generation.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
RPG......
Music (DDR, Amplitude, etc).......
Yep, that pretty much covers it for spawning genre revolutions
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The PS2 has the most system exclusive developers and titles. And by the way, the system that gets PS2 ports is the Xbox - the GC has routinely gotten shafted in that area.and thats it.
Most other hit PS2 games are also on other consoles....
Yes that is exactly what I said.Maybe if you and Mut weren't so busy sucking each other's cocks in the IRC channel, i could've lurked up something that would better support your argument than the lame PS2 fanboy approach of (OMG YOU LIKE NINTENDO THEREFORE YOU = 8 YEARS OLD).
Thank god I uploaded thesharoon:
That sounds like a fanboy if I've ever seen one. See how I bolded "fanboy"? Wanted to dabble in yellow journalism myself.emoticon, because I'm going to get a lot of use out of it on your post. Gee, giggles, is it hard for you to wrap your brain around the idea that I can pay a compliment to a game system without being a "fanboy"? I mean, there's a clear difference between saying "The PS2 has a lot of good games" and "Boy, Ken Kutaragi's dick tastes good". I own all three consoles from this generation, and they each have their strengths.
Actually, no. There is no way PS2 gets that glory over Xbox. If anything, Xbox is more deserving. Have you played Ninja Gaiden? So much more revolutionary than Devil May Cry,
The only reason Ninja Gaiden plays like it does is because of Devil May Cry, just like the fact that DMC3 plays like it does because it built on Ninja Gaiden. Ninja Gaiden owes a debt to DMC1 for breaking the ground that it built upon.
Uh, ok. So how does that prove it's more revolutionary? Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 are probably the two greatest experiments in gaming (on opposite sides of a spectrum). You appear to be confusing "I like game X more than game Y" with "Game X is more revolutionary then game Y". Splinter Cell's biggest revolution is moving the camera over, which admittedly was a good idea.and I'd rather play Splinter Cell than Metal Gear Solid.
Actually, I like to "admit" that the PS1 and PS2's RPG lineup sodomizes any other console except the Super NES. The Xbox's Knights Of The Old Republic is stronger than almost any PS1/2 RPG in my opinion, but the sheer breadth of the titles in Sony's library speaks well for it. I don't think you can make a strong case for hating down the entirety of the Playstation's RPG lineup.The only thing PS2 and the PS lineage has ever had over any console is RPGs, and as much as you'd hate to admit it, they haven't been that great.
I wouldn't ask you to pick my lotto numbers.Remind me to laugh my ass off, or roll on the floor laughing, depending on the severity of how badly Revolution does end up owning PS3.
This is the guy who called me a fanboy.Then I'll take the liberty to take a shit on you and your PS3, you fucking douche.
Thank you, game developer sharoon.PS3 game development will make developers want to change their careers
Anyway, there's a lot more after that, but these kinds of posts keep growing exponentially. Plus, really, when your argument is "PS3 sucks dicks and I shit in Sony's mouth and Nintendo has a huge dick and shit ass fuck cock shit... oh and you're a fanboy", I can't exactly use rationality to appeal to you.
I think you're losing track of the discussion Y....because (correct me if I'm wrong) I could've sworn we were talking about the PS2 here. Halo? What does that have to do with anything? With GTA III at least, I can see the attempt you tried to make, but it still doesn't work since it is no longer a PS2-exclusive title. Unless you are treating your post in a completely moronic way, I'm assuming that you are making your judgement on my console interests to the fact that I solely play Nintendo games. Which is wrong. You should know that I own a modded X-box, as I've mentioned it many times. This whole summer, in fact, the only time i was playing Nintendo games intead of X-box games were when my friends wanted to play Nintendo games.Originally posted by: Y
Naturally, you leave out the most influential console game of this generation, Grand Theft Auto III (and Halo, hurr). The freeform nature of that game hadn't been done on anywhere near that scale, and while the sequels just tweak the formula it's impossible to deny the influence that game will have for the next decade of design. It's the Super Mario 64 of this console generation.
In any case....you're bringing up anti-Nintendo points instead of pro-PS2 points.....which doesn't really fit the discussion at all, because I didn't make any pro-Nintendo post in the first place [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
I've already mentioned the irrelevance to your anti-Nintendo points.The PS2 has the most system exclusive developers and titles. And by the way, the system that gets PS2 ports is the Xbox - the GC has routinely gotten shafted in that area.
glad to know that you and your cliche goon-gifs agree [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]Yes that is exactly what I said.
I see you're relying on a new form of media to get your point across when text just doesnt quite cut it, eh mutsy? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] Ironically, you accuse me of fabricating points to support my argument, but then go and pull assumptions out of the air and accuse me of being a Nintendo fanboy just the same. Way to go champ. Just for the record, note the line I said to Y above, where i said "This whole summer, in fact, the only time i was playing Nintendo games intead of X-box games were when my friends wanted to play Nintendo games."Originally posted by: Mut@chi
*generic insta-retort SA Goon gif*
It's not that I'm all about Nintendo, its just that I don't like Sony. Noob.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
That sounds like a fanboy if I've ever seen one. See how I bolded "fanboy"? Wanted to dabble in yellow journalism myself.Originally posted by: Y
The PS2 has a stunning library of fucking amazing first and third party games.
Actually, no. There is no way PS2 gets that glory over Xbox. If anything, Xbox is more deserving. Have you played Ninja Gaiden? So much more revolutionary than Devil May Cry, and I'd rather play Splinter Cell than Metal Gear Solid.Originally posted by: Y
Considering it's spawned just about every genre revolution of this generation except in FPS', I'd say the PS2 is an inarguably strong system.
The only thing PS2 and the PS lineage has ever had over any console is RPGs, and as much as you'd hate to admit it, they haven't been that great. Dark Cloud tried to be a Zelda killer and failed ... miserably. And when they cel-shaded Dark Cloud 2, I couldn't tell if they were trying to mimic Wind Waker or what. Sony fanboys == RPG fanboys, and I think you people need to get off of Squaresoft's cock. Kingdom Hearts wasn't as revolutionary as you want to believe it is. If anything, it tainted Final Fantasy VII's legacy by including Cloud and Sephiroth ... and now I'm just hoping they don't fuck up Advent Children because I wouldn't be surprised if they do.
Killzone is a Halo wannabe, and Sony was and still is a Nintendo wannabe. PSP will fall to DS.
You tell us to get off squaresoft's cock, you need to get off of nintendo's cock. The only great Nintendo games were again, the zelda games. You just bashed PS2 with Xbox and rounded it up with a "yeah go nintendo"
You've compared some sony failed FPS like Killzone and called it a halo wannabe. Ok, heres what i'll say about this, Halo in my opinion (this includes halo2) is the best multiplayer FPS i've ever played. Except, Halo is...complicated. the campains for it always sucked. but it was a great game for you friends to come over and play with, other than that, that game is useless. At least with RPGs you dont have to be paying and begging people to go over your hosue so you can have 10min of fun (i assume you know what i'm talking about sharoon)
Square is awsome, Kingdom Hearts was a great game. You name one game RPG thats just as good as Final fantasy games or Kingdom Hearts made by Xbox or Gamecube.
Xbox RPG games SUCk. Gamecube has the zelda legacy which still, many people consider the Final Fantasy legacy to be much better.
I've already said, the halo legacy whips competition for FPS. Now for RPG what are you going to put up against Final Fantasy?
What in the world do you mean it tainted "Final Fantasy VIIs legacy"?? Sephiroth was merely a side character you face if you want to decalre "I OFFICALLY beat every aspect of Kingdom hearts" (something i've never done) Cloud's part was a bit part too. which brings me to wonder, have you even played Kingdom Hearts? or have you read magazines, reviews, and watched a friend play and suddenly assume it sucks?
FPS, RPG, Sports, fighting...are the real hit genres of games. Sony has presented Final Fantasy for RPG, Has many sports games, and has fighting games like Dead or Alive and Soulcalibur. (and it also has the street legacy behind them) Xbox took FPS. What genre is there for nintendo to claim?
Ok, and remind me to laugh in your face when revolution is dead last in popularity again like nintendo always is. Then after, i'll shit on you seeing as you seem to like that term, and then shove your revolution up your ass so hard, you'll taste it in your mouth.
Remind me to laugh my ass off, or roll on the floor laughing, depending on the severity of how badly Revolution does end up owning PS3. Then I'll take the liberty to take a shit on you and your PS3, you fucking douche.
The "SUPER BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY" as nintendo calls it is...probably its only weapon. all 3 of the new systems have WiFi compatibility. The backward compatibility might be great for going back to old games but, "been there, done that" Probably everybody older than 12 already played with a SNES and N64 which posesses only 3 games i recognize as good games. Goldeneye, Starfox, Zelda orcrina of time.
When the DS can play music, video and isnt a waste of space considering most games use the second screen as a map, then argue your point.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
Actually ... no, I don't.Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
(i assume you know what i'm talking about sharoon)
Anyway, I own a PS2 (I got it as a Christmas present, I guess that means I have "connections"). I own Kingdom Hearts. I own Dark Cloud. That's how I know they suck. I didn't even finish them because I found better things to do with my time, like developing social skills. Why did you just reaffirm everything I said about the only thing the PS lineage has had over every console is RPGs? No shit, Sherlock.
What was so confusing about "it tainted Final Fantasy VII's legacy"? I said it tainted its legacy by including Cloud and Sephiroth. Thanks for confirming that Sephiroth is in that game, as if being a side character changes that.
And I love how you idiots would rather play sports game instead of going outside and actually playing the sports. EA Madden is nothing but a rehash with new statistics and some new rookie on the cover. Suck my dick.
I don't feel the need to reply to anything else you said because it insults my intelligence, but I thoroughly like how you said Sony has Dead or Alive when every Tecmo game has been an Xbox-exclusive.
Don't double post, use the Edit button.
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Don't tell us to get off Square-Enix's cock because you seem to be pretty busy on Nintendo's. I really want to know how Dark Cloud failed in all aspects. It wasn't even trying to kill Zelda, it simply took one or two elements and expanded it within their own world. The Cel-Shades are obviously different due to the different systems. The GC can push more power than the PS2 but who cares, Dark Cloud 2 was still just as fun as playing Wind Waker.Originally posted by: sharoon
The only thing PS2 and the PS lineage has ever had over any console is RPGs, and as much as you'd hate to admit it, they haven't been that great. Dark Cloud tried to be a Zelda killer and failed ... miserably. And when they cel-shaded Dark Cloud 2, I couldn't tell if they were trying to mimic Wind Waker or what. Sony fanboys == RPG fanboys, and I think you people need to get off of Squaresoft's cock. Kingdom Hearts wasn't as revolutionary as you want to believe it is. If anything, it tainted Final Fantasy VII's legacy by including Cloud and Sephiroth ... and now I'm just hoping they don't fuck up Advent Children because I wouldn't be surprised if they do.
Killzone is a Halo wannabe, and Sony was and still is a Nintendo wannabe. PSP will fall to DS.
Kingdom Hearts wasn't revolutionary, it was just a new idea made by Square. Why the hell do you think us gamers consider it to be a game that changed the face of RPGs? I myself am a big KH fan and I look forward to KH2 but I don't consider KH to be revolutionary. It was a throughly enjoyable game. And I really want to know how the fuck it tainted Cloud and Sephiroth. Sephiroth was simply an optional boss you can fight while Cloud had a small part in the storyline. Its called..um..you know, CAMEOS, YOU KNOW, WHAT NINTENDO HAS DONE IN THEIR GAMES PLENTY OF TIMES! Ever play Super Mario RPG for the SNES? Remember the cameos of Samus and Link? Yeah, same thing here buddy.
Advent Children won't be fucked up. It already has an established set of characters and setting, something which The Spirits Within did not have, which was why it flunked (except in the case of the computer animation).
I've never played Killzone so I won't comment. But I have seen/played both the PSP and DS. I like both Sony and Nintendo equally, I don't have anything against them, like you do. At first, the idea of having dual screens with one of them being a touch screen seemed awesome, but the games the DS has put out have not been good (except that Kirby game). The PSP has many functions which are already being put to good use. Mp3's and music and along with gaming. And on the line of the PSP putting PS games on it, isnt that what the Revolution is doing? Once again, same thing here buddy.
This fantastic Sousuke sig was made by the one and only Lucifus! Thanks man!
You jealous that you don't have great connections like I do? You telling me, you wouldn't want free game consoles and games?Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
damn mut....i wish my mom sent me free consoles. Does she wipe your face after feeding you a bowl full of spaghettios too?
Your logic is stupid.I'll realize PS2 has great games when i decide that i want to fit in with the console fanboy crowd
There's no need to boast. Anyone would want free games and consoles, but not everyone has "connections" like you. You disgust me. Your blatant rubbing-it-in-our-face is cheap, just like your self-presumed mastery over logic.Originally posted by: Mut@chi
You jealous that you don't have great connections like I do?
Anyway, this was fun. Lets continue this later. I'm off for the night ladies. Kiss my ass.
No more retarded than
Man mut....you've been going through some pretty profound mood swings lately. Forgot to take the pill the other day?You might realize that PS2 has great games... Once Nintendo's jizz is wiped off your eyes.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Let's be serious here. You said that you'd say PS2 has great games when you become a console fanboy. So by that logic, for me say Xbox or Nintendo to have great games, I'd have to become a console fanboy? Give me a break. Now, I really don't care if Nintendo or PS2 is better than the other, but saying one has to become a "fanboy" to say a truth about something is just faggotry. Don't shit on a discussion because your bias opinions on one thing doesn't let you see for what things really are.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
No more retarded than
Man mut....you've been going through some pretty profound mood swings lately. Forgot to take the pill the other day?
And don't try to get me back with your "oh, are you mad now?" sarcastic, belittling tactics because they are overused and shitty.
@MUT: That's the difference between a fan and a fanboy.....one admits that their interests are just their personal opinion, while the other regards it as fact.
To go and say "your bias opinions on one thing doesn't let you see for what things really are" only supports my claim. I know I'm biased, because I've established likes and dislikes over the course of about 15 years now. I don't really care though, because my preference for something only further decides what I'm willing to spend money on, which brings us back to the original comment I made that you decided to argue.
You on the other hand conveniently chose a sentence structure that implies that you know things for what they really are, which puts you under the fanboy category i just described at the top of this post. To care whether or not a game got awesome reviews may be one thing when you're bored and don't know what games are good, but to use it as an excuse for buying a console is EXACTLY the same as saying "Buy a PS2 because everyone else likes it." Which makes you a follower incapable of making your own decisions. And if you want to even argue that without further proving my point, then I suggest taking an approach different from "PS2 got X number of games in the top 10 this year"
Popularity does NOT make one thing better than the other.
The level of sarcasm and belittleness in my posts never exceed the level of the poster I am sarcastically belittling. You should know that by now. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]And don't try to get me back with your "oh, are you mad now?" sarcastic, belittling tactics because they are overused and shitty.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Is this just statements from a Nintendo fan or a fanboy? I can't tell the difference.Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
@MUT: That's the difference between a fan and a fanboy.....one admits that their interests are just their personal opinion, while the other regards it as fact.
To go and say "your bias opinions on one thing doesn't let you see for what things really are" only supports my claim. I know I'm biased, because I've established likes and dislikes over the course of about 15 years now. I don't really care though, because my preference for something only further decides what I'm willing to spend money on, which brings us back to the original comment I made that you decided to argue.
Oh look, a bunch of shit I never said fabricated by you in order to support your argument. Okay!
wow what a bunch of nerds.
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