rofl, i cant stop laughingOriginally posted by: Terracosmo
I can picture Oro being voiced by the same girl who voiced Freeza in DBZ
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i remember a long time ago when we were discussing the naruto english dub opening and everyone got pissed off at the thought of something similar to the dragon ball z opening... too bad it's all reality now [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
sauce-kay
I don't know if anyone mention this yet but are they trying to make Naruto punch line "Believe It" or something I could have sworn he said it like 20 times in Ep. 4. Maybe it was just me.
OK, short rant. I caught an ep of the cartoon network version, the one where Naruto finds out who his teammates are, and has the infamous kiss with Sasuke. And they edited out the kiss. OK, editing some of violence I can see, but this is just gay. Or not gay. Whatever. I hate how American shows can't have anything that can possibly be deemed offensive to anyone, even something that is so obviously just silly comedy. This is why most American shows suck. They take out everything even vaguely interesting and leave bland, inoffensive oatmeal. So a show is violent, or is offensive to an interest group, or shows violence to animals, or smoking, or drinking, or anything the least bit controversial. So what? It's entertainment. Not Real. People are intelligent enough to know this. Go ahead, BE offensive, use sterotypes, swear, eat live turtles. If someone disagrees, well fine. They can complain. At least they'll have something interesting to talk about for a change instead of reruns of "Friends."
Not completely realted to the topic, but watching the ep made me remember why I don't watch network television. DIE ALL YOU PC BASTARDS!!!!
Originally posted by: Mae
OK, short rant. I caught an ep of the cartoon network version, the one where Naruto finds out who his teammates are, and has the infamous kiss with Sasuke. And they edited out the kiss. OK, editing some of violence I can see, but this is just gay. Or not gay. Whatever. I hate how American shows can't have anything that can possibly be deemed offensive to anyone, even something that is so obviously just silly comedy. This is why most American shows suck. They take out everything even vaguely interesting and leave bland, inoffensive oatmeal. So a show is violent, or is offensive to an interest group, or shows violence to animals, or smoking, or drinking, or anything the least bit controversial. So what? It's entertainment. Not Real. People are intelligent enough to know this. Go ahead, BE offensive, use sterotypes, swear, eat live turtles. If someone disagrees, well fine. They can complain. At least they'll have something interesting to talk about for a change instead of reruns of "Friends."
Not completely realted to the topic, but watching the ep made me remember why I don't watch network television. DIE ALL YOU PC BASTARDS!!!!
I just watched that episode on CN and completely agree. I couldn't believe the edited out the "kiss" scene. The worst part of it though is not that they just edited it out, but that they tried to keep the joke the same. What they ended up with was a scene (while hilarious in the original version) that was trying to be funny even though they made it so nobody had much of a clue what the joke was, since the "kiss" was just barely implied. Apparently two guys staring each other down and being bumped into each others faces that made it seem like a kiss is just way to gay for American television. I can't wait to see what they do to the episodes where they have two boys holding hands, and this also doesn't give me much hope that Haku will be portrayed very well.
I can almost understand the editing of graphic violence, especially when you are trying to market this to a young audience, but they really take this shit too far.
On the note of the actual Dub work, there are actually a few good points in all the crap. One good point is that most of the main characters aren't doing too band of a job pronouncing Naruto's name. The little robot guy on Toonami does the worst job with his naRUdo. From what I've seen in this episode, Sasuke's VA does the best job with pronouncing Naruto. Sauske's voice is probably one of the best VA to character matches, maybe along with Iruka's voice work. (Though I wasn't paying much attention to Iruka's voice, and I've only seen the majority of this one episode.) On the bad side, Naurto's voice is horrible, Sakura's voice is your typical bad voice acting for an anime girl, Kakashi's voice does nothing to portray the actual character, the Hokage's voice also doesn't fit the character at all, and Shikamaru's voice once again just doesn't fit the character. When you read the interviews with the people who chose the VAs for this Dub, and read how they made sure to get voices that matched the characters really well, it only serves to show how incompetent these people are.
Ok, I'm done complaining for now.
Original voices rule, anything dubbed sucks big time.
the part after the kiss when thier spitting and stuff and sasuke says naruto im gonna kill you or something like that that was pretty funny
if only they could just keep it with japenese, and english subs, WHY! are people that lazy that they can't stand reading it? the original voices are always so much better than the gay english dubs
That's not necessarily true in all cases, I have seen some dubs I liked better than subs, and the best solution to the problem here would just be to unalter anime brought over except for the voice dubbing which should be done right.
And WHY should they keep it in Japanese? wtf does laziness have to do with anything? If you don't like the dub then just watch the fucking fansubs, or buy the dvds when they come out. If you haven't noticed, the dub isn't all that terrible. If you don't like it, don't watch it.Originally posted by: a_odessey
if only they could just keep it with japenese, and english subs, WHY! are people that lazy that they can't stand reading it? the original voices are always so much better than the gay english dubs
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Most of the anime shows broadcasted on Amercian television are dubbed, not subbed. They want a wide range of audience, including little children who might have trouble keeping up with the speed that the translations would be going at and people who just find it troublesome to be reading translations for 24 minutes (or however long each episode is).Originally posted by: a_odessey
if only they could just keep it with japenese, and english subs, WHY! are people that lazy that they can't stand reading it? the original voices are always so much better than the gay english dubs
I tried my best...
naruto's voice sucks....sakura and ino are done pretty well. kakashi and sasuke are ok, but they can be better,
i hate that they've taken out some scenes, like the naruto/sasuke kiss. that was one of the funniest scenes in the whole damn series, and they cut it and put some retarded kissing sound in its place. u cant hook an audiance if u take out the best material.
have they edited the sexy no jutsu scenes as well?
i just hope they keep 1000 years of pain. if they change that, it'll completly ruin the series for me.
1. No, they didn't edit the sexy no jutsu at all.Originally posted by: Assassin
naruto's voice sucks....sakura and ino are done pretty well. kakashi and sasuke are ok, but they can be better,
i hate that they've taken out some scenes, like the naruto/sasuke kiss. that was one of the funniest scenes in the whole damn series, and they cut it and put some retarded kissing sound in its place. u cant hook an audiance if u take out the best material.
have they edited the sexy no jutsu scenes as well?
i just hope they keep 1000 years of pain. if they change that, it'll completly ruin the series for me.
2. Yes, 1000 years of pain (or death) was left intact.
3. I would hardly call Naruto and Sasuke's kiss the "best material" but even then, the joke was pretty much the same - just with 1 shot missing.
4. I agree with your opinion of the dub. I still don't like Naruto's voice that much.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
I'll agree that Naruto's voice is getting a little annoying, but I have to dissent and say that I think the English VA is doing a pretty good job with Kakashi. No I never expect the English dub to be anywhere near as good as the Japanese voice acting, so maybe i'm willing to overlook slight flaws in it.
And there was no way they'd leave in a same-sex kiss in this time slot. It's still a kids network, they're still largely trying to market Naruto to young American kids. Can you imagine the anger many intollerant parents would have if they saw the actual kiss? (sure they'll still be pissed by the prescence of the gag, which is still there, but at least the Network can say 'we editted it! i don't know what else you want us to do' and cover their asses)
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Censors for homophobes make me sad.
Although my opinion is pretty much this:
Anyway, this dub is doing kick-ass edit wise. True, it'll get less bloody, but it's not like people are being sent to dungeons and weapons are being edited to big hands (ala One Piece).Originally posted by: XanBcoo
While I do agree it was pretty stupid to edit out the actual seen of them touching lips, the joke was, for the most part, exactly the same. I'm with you 100% about the editing thing, and how dumb and useless it was for them to edit it out (seriously), but it didn't hurt the seen very much at all.
I'm really looking forward to episode 6. Here, we should see if Kazekage and the others will remain that, or if they'll translate them. Also I want to see the Naruto hand-stabbing scene; I read in another forum that Anime Insider said they'd keep (all) the blood there. I have a feeling they might shorten the contact time, but meh.
I still want to know what Sharingan and Byakugan will be called. I'm not saying "OMG FOREIGN LANGUAGE IS AUTOMATICALLY BETTER", but "White eyes" is a bit long winded. And they ARE keeping Jutsu, Shinobi, Nin/Gen/Taijutsu.
Then it stands to reason that they will keep the names of the Kage as well. I'm not too worried about that. Though if later on they're using "copy wheel eye" or "white eyes" then ShoPro will bleed. And then they will have to edit out that blood.
Next episode: Tazuna (and I think Zabuza - at the end).
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Aren't they referring to the Hokage as just Kage? How will they differentiate when the other Kages are brought in?
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Umm...no, they refer to the Hokage as Hokage.
That was just me saying "kage" as in "all the kages" (You don't add "s" in japanese to make it plural - I was just being anal). [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]Originally posted by: XanBcoo
Then it stands to reason that they will keep the names of the Kage as well.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
I watched the trailer for CN. I'm glad I can't watch it, but I kinda want to download an episode just to watch...
Get them here. <--this was posted earlier in this thread.
But don't watch it because you won't enjoy it. If you're not already a fan of dubs, then you won't like watching it to begin with. I'd say so far it's a decent B+ dub though.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
I know there are a lot of funs and that some ppl really likes to see naruto in their language, even with that in mind i must say that im dissapointed with the dub. Too many editting, not sounds at all, actors dont interpret the scenes. On the first chapter where naruto and iruka where crying their voices sounded plain, not acting at all!
I dont have the original naruto at hand but i would say that they edited the sexy jutsu, i believe that they edited the blood from the noses. Again I cant compare but i think that they editted too much there are a lot more of still images. The opening is pretty bad, just changed it to give the audience the sense of the series being crapstacular.
And voices... i dont really like any1 of it, maybe my opinion is influenced by the fact that here in my country we have 1 of the best dubbers of the world (sometimes even better than original voices), i was hopping for a much better adaptation, but still i like to see it, i just cant stop laughing with every new voice i discover and the changes [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
I give the dub a 5.5/10
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