yea i also noticed that too. wonder how he was able to do that?Originally posted by: basey_69
anyone else notice naruto made that rasengan with one hand [img][/img]
yea i also noticed that too. wonder how he was able to do that?Originally posted by: basey_69
anyone else notice naruto made that rasengan with one hand [img][/img]
maybe because of the sheer amount of chakra that he had going through him that let him do it.
Kyubi did it. Naruto sucks, he can't possibly do anything without the help of the Kyubi.
Mabye he did the Rasengan with one hand because of his lack of chakra control while berserk...
And IF kyuubi helped him, why wasn't it red??
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But Isn't it the same for Sasuke, who can't predict Naruto's movement without his sharingan. Or any other special bloodline out there. Naruto's kyubii its just the same as an advanced bloodline cept he is the only one who has it and not some clan.
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Like defeat Neji, and Haku, and Gaara, and many more that were a lot better than him...Originally posted by: Mut@t@
Kyubi did it. Naruto sucks, he can't possibly do anything without the help of the Kyubi.
There's a scene in the trailer for the 2nd movie where Naruto uses an orangey/red rasengan.
I know it's from a movie so it might not count...but it still makes more sense to me for the Kyuubi-Rasengan to be red.
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Naruto beat all of them with the help of the Kyubi. I don't see the point you're trying to prove.Originally posted by: Jaredster
Like defeat Neji, and Zaku, and Gaara, and many more that were a lot better than him...Originally posted by: Mut@t@
Kyubi did it. Naruto sucks, he can't possibly do anything without the help of the Kyubi.
And Naruto never fought Zaku, fgt.
Sorry, meant Haku.
Naruto would be nothing without the Kyuubi, but I guess this is the wrong thread for it.
I BEG to differ.Originally posted by: Jaredster
Sorry, meant Haku.
Naruto would be nothing without the Kyuubi, but I guess this is the wrong thread for it.
It has been stated that having the Kyuubi inside him, while it affords him enourmous stamina and chakra, through the early years of his life, the power was foriegn and didn't mix well - hence the design of the Seal to ease his body into it (Jyraiya mentions this) and the Rasengan is proof that Naruto is a fantastic Ninja, he's just had a giant handicap his entire life.
Why is the rasengan proof? Because it's a technique that the 4th invented and only taught his master (Jyraiya) Tsunade and Orochimaru, who both knew what it was, were flabergasted that he could do it - but more importantly, he invented his OWN method for the technique, because the 4th's generic method was too hard.
Naruto IS fantastic, and he keeps on getting better, especially now that the Kyuubi isn't holding him down.
The 4th never invented it, it took him 3 years to learn. Jyraiya mentions Naurto and the 4th been alike, because of Narutos will power to not give up.Originally posted by: Kovash
Because it's a technique that the 4th invented and only taught his master (Jyraiya)
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Also Naruto was forced to use 1 hand to do the Rasengan, he mentioned he was unable to move his arm, so he would not have been able to use the seal to create another one of himself. He was forced to use 1 hand, and if you look at it, when he started it, it didnt look anywhere near as perfect as when he usually does it, it was all messy and all over the place. I think in about 2 seconds he perfected it. LOL
No, he invented it.Originally posted by: Natural Cause
The 4th never invented it, it took him 3 years to learnL
Never was it said that he invented it. After looking back at episode 87, he said.Originally posted by: Y The Alien
No, he invented it.Originally posted by: Natural Cause
The 4th never invented it, it took him 3 years to learnL
"This is a ninja technique that the Fourth Hokage left."
"It took three whole years for the Fourth to complete this technique."
So i don't think he 'invented' it.
Kovash. Naruto is NOTHING without the Kyubi. It would've taken Naruto possibly decades to be able to do the rasengan the way he can if he didn't have........ KYUBI TO HEAL ALL OF HIS INJURIES OVER NIGHT. Seriously, Naruto has huge ass advantage when it comes to training. He just cannot get tired as easily as everyone else can.
Kyubi > you.
I don't think Naruto is nothing without the Kyubi, Mut@t@... I still think he'd be at about Kiba's level, minus the dog. Hypothetically. And maybe he'd think a little harder (instead of always acting like an idiot) if he couldn't just beat everyone he knows with his Kyubi advantage? I think he wouldn't be as arrogant as "I WILL BEAT YOU I AM NUMBER ONE" all the time if he got smacked around a little more. Maybe losing this fight to Sasuke will humble him a little. I hope so.
That's debatable. It had been said by Jyraiya (as I mentioned in my previous post) that the nature of the Kyuubi's sealing was disruptive to Naruto's ability to control his Chakra, and the double seal was to allow his body to slowly assimilate the power without killing him. We KNOW Naruto has huge Chakra because of what he does without the Kyuubi (the only technique he's used with it the the Kychiose) everything else has been pure Naruto.Originally posted by: Mut@t@
Kovash. Naruto is NOTHING without the Kyubi. It would've taken Naruto possibly decades to be able to do the rasengan the way he can if he didn't have........ KYUBI TO HEAL ALL OF HIS INJURIES OVER NIGHT. Seriously, Naruto has huge ass advantage when it comes to training. He just cannot get tired as easily as everyone else can.
Kyubi > you.
Naruto is very tricky, his life as a prankster apparently has lent him some quick thinking - he does not have forethought, like Shikamaru, but he can damn well improvise when the situation requires it, and THAT is what makes him great.
As for the training advantage, you could say that, if his Chakra control wasn't impared he wouldn't need to be constantly revived because he would perfect it MUCH faster than he could while inhibited.
the kyubi seal doesnt effect his chakra control, what effected it was the extra seal that oro gave him in the forest, which was later removed by jiraiya
That would be correct. Jyraiya talks about the four seal that the fourth placed on naruto, and mentionsOriginally posted by: basey_69
the kyubi seal doesnt effect his chakra control, what effected it was the extra seal that oro gave him in the forest, which was later removed by jiraiya
"It is set up so that the chakra of the Nine-Tails can leak out from the four season seals and be converted into his own."
"But that has been stoped by the Five Element Seal."
"An odd numbered seal on top of an even numbered seal His chakra and the Chakra of the Nine-Tails mix inconsistently, so it has become unstable."
So basically Kyubi's chakra is been added to narutos.
I was waiting for someone to mention this...Originally posted by: basey_69
the kyubi seal doesnt effect his chakra control, what effected it was the extra seal that oro gave him in the forest, which was later removed by jiraiya
Yes, the 5th element seal screwed up Naruto's Chakra control (yet he still manages a crud load of Kage Bunshins...?) but Jyraiya also says that the Kyuubi chakra screws up Naruto anyway, and that only recently has it been mixing properly.
I don't have the anime episode anymore, so I'll try and find the Manga and point out where he says it.
No, it hasn't. Kyubi chakra has been mixing with Naruto's ever since he was born. Technically, Naruto doesn't have a chakra of his own anymore.Originally posted by: Kovash
That's debatable. It had been said by Jyraiya (as I mentioned in my previous post) that the nature of the Kyuubi's sealing was disruptive to Naruto's ability to control his Chakra, and the double seal was to allow his body to slowly assimilate the power without killing him.We KNOW Naruto has huge Chakra because of what he does without the Kyuubi (the only technique he's used with it the the Kychiose) everything else has been pure Naruto.
That, or, the ability to goNaruto is very tricky, his life as a prankster apparently has lent him some quick thinking - he does not have forethought, like Shikamaru, but he can damn well improvise when the situation requires it, and THAT is what makes him great.and use brute force to destroy everyone.
Who cares about shitty chakra control when he can just turn into a youma? The reason why Naruto has shitty chakra control is to not give the main character every advantage and balance out the massive Kyubi power. Same with the Naruto's shitty taijutsu. Imagine what he could do if his specialty was the omote renge instead of kage bunshin.As for the training advantage, you could say that, if his Chakra control wasn't impared he wouldn't need to be constantly revived because he would perfect it MUCH faster than he could while inhibited.
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