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    Weren't both KoTOR and ME2 developed by Bioware? I don't see a huge difference in the battle systems, since you do pause the game in ME2 when you tell your team what attacks to perform. You don't queue up attacks like in KoTOR however.

    Still, the similarities between the two are fairly evident. I imagine any RPG will be similar but ME2 just feels too much like KoTOR without lightsabers.

    I'm playing Bioshock2 now and it's pretty cool, though it's more like Bioshock 1.5. Not much has advanced or changed.


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    I hardly ever pause the game in ME2..
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    You let your AI teammates decide what they'll do by themselves? Every time you select a different weapon or power for you or a team member from the little menu, it pauses the game.


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    They're pretty good in ME2. They're not dumb like they were in previous Bioware games, or even in Dragon Age without deft tactics programming.

    I set them up with whatever they need before the mission gets underway. Switch Garrus over to the sniper rifle, have him use AP ammo, set Thane with Shredder ammo, etc. Then move out. It is very rare that I have them switch up during combat.

    After that, they do a good job on their own. I rarely ever have to intervene with them. Those with Overload or Biotics will go for foes with shields/barriers/armor. The only times I really command them are when I want to synchronize timing. Their powers activate instantly line-of-sight from your reticle, and yours take time to get there but can be arced around or over cover. You can coordinate an advanced strike. OR, you can map their powers to the dpad (or whatever the PC commands are) as the game recommends to and accomplish everything in real time. I change the commands they have mapped depending on the mission. Drone or AI Hacking, Overload or Warp.

    I really prefer to play it in real time as much as possible. It adds a lot to the experience. That's why I usually switch weapons by holding the X button down. I set up my two primary weapons before a mission gets underway as well.

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    White Knight Chronicles is just plain awesome.

    I just reserved Heavy Rain too. Heck... this february-march is crazy for PS3 gaming.

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    Ryll pretty much said it, they are pretty good at taking out enemies by themselfs. I only give them commands if, like ryll said, you need to synchro timing. But since I'm playing on pc, even that doesn't require pausing the game, since you can bind 8 powers to buttons, the ones I use the most are bound directly to my mouse.

    So yeah no pausing required.
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    I finally got Modern Warfare 2 for PC. I like it. Spent about 4-5 hours playing yesterday and I like the level up system (sorta). It would have been nice to start at launch w\ everybody else. I played almost 5 hours yesterday and got to lvl 17. unlocked a couple of guns and got a few attachements for my scar and m1.

    I don't know if there is really any auto-balancing going on... you play w\ a bunch of people who have significantly better gear and upgrades than you do and I haven't bothered to see if theres a way around it.

    Also, the knife kills are SO LAME. They obviously went through alot of trouble to try and make the game realistic, and these drive by knifings are BS. Same thing when I actually see the knifer, and shoot them several times and still die to the knife hit.

    I'm so used to playing team fortress which is so different from mw2.

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    From watching some PS3 gameplay, MW2's knife has huge range. COD4'S range seems more realistic, but less free in style.
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    to get rid of knifers play hardcore, but you get campers there. Try taking ump/scar with stopping power - 2/3 hits are enough to take someone down in normal. Also try knifing for yourself - that way you can learn to avoid knifers and counter them... With knife in any class or ump.

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    Hardcore is a lot of fun, and you can try different weapons because pretty much any weapon can kill in two or three shots. Like Xelbair said, knifing sucks in hardcore, but everyone camps. Still, it's a lot of fun to creep around and kill the campers. You need to advance to ninja 2 and the perk that kills radar, otherwise you won't last long in hardcore.


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    bought ME 1 and 2 a few days ago
    after I finished ME 1 I started playing ME 2

    ME 1 = RPG with FPS elements
    ME 2 = FPS with RPG elements

    I like both games though
    the AI in ME1 was pretty much useless, I can't say the same thing about them in ME2 though which is really great
    and they are alot easier to control
    I don't have to pause the game to direct their force attacks
    For example:
    for a Pull/Warp combo all i need to do is prress Q, wait ~1 sek and press E

    what I don't like about ME 2 however is that there are nearly no items to use/find.
    I still have the same armor which I had at the beginning of the game
    the Blood-Dragon Armor which I got from buying Dragon Age is very weak too.

    and there is nearly no reason to play the Soldier class anymore.
    at least not until you reach a very high lvl with maxed out ammo-types (squad-skilled)
    but even that is not needed if you got Jack or Garrus with either warp or tungsten(?) ammo

    the graphics are really wonderfull though.. I liked the scenery during Zaeeds loyality-mission alot.. felt like watching avatar.well done

    Every time you select a different weapon or power for you or a team member from the little menu, it pauses the game
    mousewheel + 1-7 solves (or whatever bindings you gave them)
    you can use the quick-spell-slots for your teammembers too.

    oh and btw.. the "renegade-jokes" are extremely funny..shepard is really a jerk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33
    what I don't like about ME 2 however is that there are nearly no items to use/find.
    I still have the same armor which I had at the beginning of the game
    the Blood-Dragon Armor which I got from buying Dragon Age is very weak too.

    and there is nearly no reason to play the Soldier class anymore.
    at least not until you reach a very high lvl with maxed out ammo-types (squad-skilled)
    but even that is not needed if you got Jack or Garrus with either warp or tungsten(?) ammo
    You have to buy armor types. I certainly agree that I wish there were more (I would even pay for them) but there are an adequate number of armor pieces for the N7 armor. An option to remove the helmets on the special armors would be a nice plus too. My Shepard is too pretty to wear helmets all the time.

    I disagree, I loved playing Soldier. You can absolutely scream through the game with a Soldier. The machine gun (specialized assault rifle) allows you a lot of utility up close, and the Adrenaline Rush makes headshots with any sniper rifle or even the other weapons a piece of cake, and it is really satisfying when you rank it up all the way. I took rank 3 Disruptor rounds for weapon overheats, Inferno rounds (rank 4 incendiary splash damage), and took 2 ranks in AP ammo from Garrus. I could take down anything, with any weapon. Even then, I mainly stuck with Inferno rounds.

    The more reckless you play Solider, the more fun they are. It is similar to Vanguards, but without the hax biotic ability that is Charge. Adrenaline Rush is a big bonus, because some enemies move back and forth between sets of cover constantly, making it tough to get a headshot sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    ...It is similar to Vanguards, but without the hax biotic ability that is Charge....
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    My Shepard is too pretty to wear helmets all the time.
    the best way to solve that is to wear the +10% headshot dmg helmet.. which looks similiar to garrus' "eye scope".

    btw, if I use "squad-ammo" is it possible to have armor-pierce rounds and disruptor rounds at the same time? or will one overwrite the other one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrayZ33
    btw, if I use "squad-ammo" is it possible to have armor-pierce rounds and disruptor rounds at the same time? or will one overwrite the other one?
    I'm pretty sure whichever ammo was activated second (or last) is the one that is used. I put AP ammo on a sniper rifle after I had had Jacob turn on squad Incendiary. It only used the AP ammo. However, just like if you switch to a weapon that didn't have it, you can have one type of ammo while the other two use the squad ammo.

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    My cousin and I just played through Bioshock 2. That game was fucking win.

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    Playing the new Aliens vs Predator, and its pretty sweet so far, i only tried Predator and Alien for a few minutes just to see what they were like then i went Marine, I'm gonna save Predator for last cuz I've always loved the Predators most, they're just so badass.
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    Just finished Bioshock 2 on the PC. Awesome game. At first I thought it was just going to be a rehash of the first game, and gameplay wise it is, but the story is pretty deep and compelling. Leaves you with a satisfied emotional feeling when you're finished the mission and the game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    Just finished Bioshock 2 on the PC. Awesome game. At first I thought it was just going to be a rehash of the first game, and gameplay wise it is, but the story is pretty deep and compelling. Leaves you with a satisfied emotional feeling when you're finished the mission and the game.
    I'm part way through Dionysus Park. For some reason, I just lost interest in the first game, but Bioshock 2 has been more compelling for some reason. It helps that it was assisted by the back story established in Bioshock. Still, the hidden conflict between Ryan and Lamb revealed through the audio tapes, the guy who's daughter was taken and somehow found his way down to Rapture, and even the story between Delta and Elenore has been far more interesting. Certainly a different message from the first, but a good one nevertheless. Some of the telepathic messages are downright terrifying from a father/big brother perspective when you can only imagine what is happening without really knowing what is going on.

    Some say it "perverts" Ryan's Despairing Idealist character from Bioshock, but as with all things, power corrupts. I kind of like that aspect to it.

    At first I felt really weak for a Big Daddy, but after a couple tonics, I really enjoy letting a Little Sister harvest Adam while I protect her. Trying to guess where they'll come from to effectively use traps is a lot of fun (even when I'm a bit off, damn Houdinis).


    As a sidenote, I'm really tired of hearing Bioshock called a poor ripoff of System Shock 2. Granted, it's 2K's fault for starting the comparison in the first place with a such rabid fanbase, but it is getting old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    I'm part way through Dionysus Park. For some reason, I just lost interest in the first game, but Bioshock 2 has been more compelling for some reason. It helps that it was assisted by the back story established in Bioshock. Still, the hidden conflict between Ryan and Lamb revealed through the audio tapes, the guy who's daughter was taken and somehow found his way down to Rapture, and even the story between Delta and Elenore has been far more interesting. Certainly a different message from the first, but a good one nevertheless. Some of the telepathic messages are downright terrifying from a father/big brother perspective when you can only imagine what is happening without really knowing what is going on.

    Some say it "perverts" Ryan's Despairing Idealist character from Bioshock, but as with all things, power corrupts. I kind of like that aspect to it.

    At first I felt really weak for a Big Daddy, but after a couple tonics, I really enjoy letting a Little Sister harvest Adam while I protect her. Trying to guess where they'll come from to effectively use traps is a lot of fun (even when I'm a bit off, damn Houdinis).
    I was also a lot more into the story of Bioshock2 than in the first game, but maybe that's because in the second game you're searching to save someone, instead of searching to destroy someone.

    The "defend the little sisters while they collect adam" gameplay is a blast. I used "hypnotize 3" to great effect. Having another Big Daddy or a Brute on your side makes things a lot easier.


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