Episode 32 Discussion "spoilers"

[Curium]

First, I still want to know where Buster and Duel are!

Originally posted by: Terracosmo

Originally posted by: Raquelcasull
Being the first true sequel to a Gundam series

How is this a more true sequel than Z Gundam or ZZ Gundam was? Or Endless Waltz for that reason? (if you count OAVs/movies).

Go back to the original post and read THE REST OF THE SENTANCE. You took it completely out of context Terra. The sentance was "Being the first true sequel to a Gundam series that I've seen so far"

There seems to be a debate on who killed Shinn's family, while it never acctually shows it, there is around an 80-90% chance it was Kira. Calamity was the only MS in the area and was firing at an elevated angle (into the air). The blast to killed Shinn's family was not aimed into the air. In the first couple of episodes it showed that it was Freedom fighting Calamity.

Also I want to repeat something from my first comments on the episode; WHY COULDN'T KIRA BE A FEW SECONDS SLOWER!!!!!! If he had waited just a few seconds then Stellar would have put Shinn out of ALL of our miseries.

[EpoC]

Ahh at last the pshyco bitch is dead, I've been waiting for that a long time now, but I feel i little bit sorry fo shinn thouh even though the fact that I hate him...
I mean that kid has serious problems, well I to would've if my near ones died in front of my eyes like that.
But he's really immature and hates everything bah. Well enough about that little bastard.
Great episode was the thing I was planning to say, as always gundam seed destiny comes with another great episode.
Ok so I've heard that shinn is going to read every info on freedom with the help of Rey. and They are going to find a way to take freedom down.
I hope when the time comes when it's going to be impulse vs freedom, Kira will kick Shinns pathetic arse and chop it into pieces, grill it and sell it at the local café.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: EpoC
Ahh at last the pshyco bitch is dead, I've been waiting for that a long time now, but I feel i little bit sorry fo shinn thouh even though the fact that I hate him...
I mean that kid has serious problems, well I to would've if my near ones died in front of my eyes like that.
But he's really immature and hates everything bah. Well enough about that little bastard.
Great episode was the thing I was planning to say, as always gundam seed destiny comes with another great episode.
Ok so I've heard that shinn is going to read every info on freedom with the help of Rey. and They are going to find a way to take freedom down.
I hope when the time comes when it's going to be impulse vs freedom, Kira will kick Shinns pathetic arse and chop it into pieces, grill it and sell it at the local café.

I don't know, if I was the local cafe I would make Kira pay me to take Shinn off his hands.

[Splash!]

i honestly don't believe that Kira will kick Shinn's arse even tho he is fully capable of it. What i am guessing that he is really gonna hold back while fitin Shinn, and loose. However he will probably make Shinn work for his money, even if he IS holding back. However, i am sick and tired of Shinn always being wrong and turning out at the better end of things. I mean COMON!!!!! I wud really like to see someone dent Shinn's sense of pride but i dont think it is gonna be Kira. In any case, someone needs to beat Shinn really badly in a battle and shut him up!

[Dannynonsense]

for those of you who somehow cannot recall the first episode you'll see what happen to shinns parents and sister is a result of an explosion caused by orga shooting at freedom and also if kira should die destiny would become the worst gundam series alot of people might disagree but kira is by far one of the best characters in the gundam universe.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: Dannynonsense
for those of you who somehow cannot recall the first episode you'll see what happen to shinns parents and sister is a result of an explosion caused by orga shooting at freedom and also if kira should die destiny would become the worst gundam series alot of people might disagree but kira is by far one of the best characters in the gundam universe.

I just rewatched the beginning of the first episode. Calamity was aiming into the air to get Freedom. The angle of fire wasn't correct for killing Shinn's family. Freedom was the one that was firing towards the ground.

Also rewatching that reminded me that Mayu was acctually more spoiled then Shinn. I've never commented on it before because I didn't join the forum until around episode 20. There in the middle of a war zone with heavy fighting going on nearby and she is worried about her stupid cell phone. I can officially say that Shinn is the character I hate the SECOND most in Destiny now that I've been reminded of that.

EDIT: What happened to all the Windams from the beginning? I know Stellar launched Destroy with just Neo and Sting, but at the beginning of 32 there was a group of Windams behind them. They were never shown being destroyed or doing anything. Wouldn't they have been helping out, at least against the Murasames.

[k_truong]

shin's just a selfish prick
by the looks of it i reckon he would sacrifise more cities and innocent people just to save stellar

[LokeXero]

You see a few of them in one of the first few scenes when Sting and Neo are hovering watching Stellar kill things.

The ep highlights the point that Freedom and Archangel are just a nuisance, sure they fight for a cause but all they have done in destiny so far is cause confusion on the battlefield...

Overall it was a pretty good ep though. 1 thing i wonder bout is (i wonder if anybody else noticed) when cagalli launchs in the strike rouge, There is no Athna logo on its shoulders yet in the intro and this pic it has logos on it.
http://www.seedgenesis.net/ind.../destiny/strikerouge..

I also think we'll see Jibril get his hands dirty soon just as Azrael did in Seed with most likely a similar situation....

[laxklein]

I've been browsing this website for quite sometimes and found that most of the comments were funny!

Did it ever come to your mind that the reason why shinn's parents died is because of his stupid little sister. They could have run all the way to the ship but instead shinn has to come back for that silly cellphone and there his parents and mayu standing idly waiting for him to return. Geez, it's war no one would be so dumb to just stand by and retrived a pathetic cellphone. Run for your lives. And then Shinn is blaiming cagalli, for what? for saving their country from being a lapdog to the EAF?

[Terracosmo]

Originally posted by: Curium
First, I still want to know where Buster and Duel are!

Originally posted by: Terracosmo

Originally posted by: Raquelcasull
Being the first true sequel to a Gundam series

How is this a more true sequel than Z Gundam or ZZ Gundam was? Or Endless Waltz for that reason? (if you count OAVs/movies).

Go back to the original post and read THE REST OF THE SENTANCE. You took it completely out of context Terra. The sentance was "Being the first true sequel to a Gundam series that I've seen so far"

Clumsy of me to miss it indeed, but reading through the rest of the post it looked like this guy (girl?) took the liberty of talking about the Gundam series in such a way that it looked like he/she knew more than he/she did. It was not a strange mistake to make.

Also, I hate the following: "Go back to the original post and read THE REST OF THE SENTANCE."

Don't ever fucking write that again. I have been here for 2 years longer than you and missing a few damn letters in that time is not bad. So don't you dare try to make me look like some douche that can't read. That approach of yours is so entirely uncalled for.

[TwisT]

I thought Destroy went down so easy.. And for the first time a gundam was taken out buy regular mobile suits.. I mean Orb forces went down easily before but now, 3+Cagali took Chaos down.. It feelt so wrong..

[LokeXero]

i wonder with all the work Neo ordered them to do to Sting (Erasing both Auel and Stellar) that he lost some of his skills. As irrational as it is thats one explanation as to why Sting sucked.
Another explanation (one i reckon is correct) could be that the orb pilots are actually really good, i think if you stuck them in say Strike or Aegis they would be on par with Mwuu or Lunamaria in there respective suits. The difference is that there MS isnt supposedly as good so there a bit like Athrun,Yzak and Dearka in Yaku's.
Sting clearly should have had his unit spilt up and shoot down the multiple Orb suits only to be killed by cagalli in her strike after seing her pilots get vaped (that would have been great to see her kill somebody)

[DDBen]

Originally posted by: LokeXero
i wonder with all the work Neo ordered them to do to Sting (Erasing both Auel and Stellar) that he lost some of his skills. As irrational as it is thats one explanation as to why Sting sucked.
Another explanation (one i reckon is correct) could be that the orb pilots are actually really good, i think if you stuck them in say Strike or Aegis they would be on par with Mwuu or Lunamaria in there respective suits. The difference is that there MS isnt supposedly as good so there a bit like Athrun,Yzak and Dearka in Yaku's.
Sting clearly should have had his unit spilt up and shoot down the multiple Orb suits only to be killed by cagalli in her strike after seing her pilots get vaped (that would have been great to see her kill somebody)

First off don't compare Mwu to Lunamaria they arn't even close in ability. Next it seemed that Sting was more distracted during the fight normally 3 on 1 wouldn't even remotely be a issue. Also note that the orb suits are far better then the basic suits on any other side its been stated regularly that orb has the best tech.

My assumption would be more along the lines they wern't able to fully repare Chaos after the last time Kira destroyed it because do note at no point does sting transform the suit which is very uncharacteristic of him as in any other battle he did so regularly.

[Curium]

Originally posted by: DDBen
My assumption would be more along the lines they wern't able to fully repare Chaos after the last time Kira destroyed it because do note at no point does sting transform the suit which is very uncharacteristic of him as in any other battle he did so regularly.

If you watch carefully, he does transform it 1 time. When he is dodgeing the Gottfried blast from the Archangel he transforms as he spins. I replayed that scene slowly to make sure because I had been thinking the same thing before I saw it.

Originally posted by: Mut@chi
Curium, don't be a douche and idle only in Cellphones^2 channel. If you're gonna be on IRC, come to #gotwoot on irc.gotwoot.net

Is that on Rizon?

[DDBen]

Originally posted by: Curium

Originally posted by: DDBen
My assumption would be more along the lines they wern't able to fully repare Chaos after the last time Kira destroyed it because do note at no point does sting transform the suit which is very uncharacteristic of him as in any other battle he did so regularly.

If you watch carefully, he does transform it 1 time. When he is dodgeing the Gottfried blast from the Archangel he transforms as he spins. I replayed that scene slowly to make sure because I had been thinking the same thing before I saw it.

Hmm upon rewatching it almost frame by frame it seems your correct as he barrel rolled away it does seem that he transformed for about 2 seconds. In that case its a simple fact of sting is a horrible pilot.

[kinggalaxia]

Ok, where to start.....

Number 1. GUESS WHAT GUYS??? SHINN IS THE MAIN CHARACTER!
He is NOT fucking going away! He won't die, at least not in THIS ep! "oh, if Kira was slower, blah blah BLAH"
Stfu, people! Kira is not God; he's a goddamn pussy who's too fucking overpowered to be taken seriously anymore. I've held that since the last third of Seed.
Holding back or not, he will have a damn hard time against Shinn and I juuust know you guys are gonna shit on it, like "oh, oh, Kira's holding back" or "so lame, Shinn hit him more". Grow up and enjoy the story! >< It's not about the character you like or don't like. It's how they are! And if you don't like how one is (gee, wonder who?), then at least make the show more enjoyable for yourself and be open-minded about the psychology involved with them.

Number 2. Everyone who said they're glad Stellar....you should be ashamed of yourselves, honestly. I'll leave it at that.

Number 3. Yeah....Sting died stupidly. I do agree there.

Number 4. Kudos for going ahead with Neo/Mwu+Mirrue. A little too quick, I'd say (could've had him get up from the fall after a while sans mask and Mirrue gets a GLISPE before he runs off....dramaaa). In any case, it'll be quite interesting from here on out. "New enemy", eh, Kotono-chan [narrator]? Hmmmm.....

[Mut]

Originally posted by: Curium

Originally posted by: Mut@chi
Curium, don't be a douche and idle only in Cellphones^2 channel. If you're gonna be on IRC, come to #gotwoot on irc.gotwoot.net

Is that on Rizon?

...

#gotwoot @ irc.gotwoot.net

So no, it would not be on rizon... We moved from rizon.net to gotwoot.net. We have our own network. There's a thread in the Announcements forum and in General Discussion..

Pay attention!

[Curium]

I posting this here because we had been discussing who acctually killed Shinn's family. I don't have the episode of SEED where they were fighting outside Orb available to watch right now, but I found some SD Gundam SEED thing (it is in the FTP that was posted by Danholo Here) that was a remake of that scene. While I don't take it as cannon or anything, it did remind me of another possibility. I had completely forgotten about Forbidden. Instead of bad aim on Kira's part, it seems more likely to me now that Kira blasted Forbidden, but Forbidden deflected the blasts and one hit Shinn's family. Just really random bad luck.

[Dannynonsense]

after watching the first episode again i noticed something since shinn went to go get his sister cellphone when the explosion happend he was saved but shinn didnt actually see who shot who or what happen his back was turned and he bent down to pick up the cellphone which is why he blames ataha family for what happen since they decided not to comply with the federations demands