Originally posted by: danholo
It wasn't Kira who killed Stellar? Did you even watch the episode? Maybe it wasn't his fault but he sure did kill Stellar in order to protect others, Shinn especially. While Shinn's ideals do coincide with Kira's, he really has a wierd and immature outlook on things. He'll grow up and shape the destiny of things. [img][/img]

p.s. Nice to see somebody from Finland that watches Gundam. [img][/img]
OK, now that I think of it, maybe it was Kira who accidentally killed Shinn's family.

But please, since when did Shinn's ideals coincide with Kira's? Kira is a pacifict, Shinn is an aggressor. Shinn's style is very like a berserker with little thought of defence while Kira hasn't killed anyone since Gundam Seed Phase 50. Well, not directly anyway. Shinn's simply does not believe that peace is possible with the Earth Alliance which is why he joined ZAFT while Kira is constantly looking for a way to get both sides to look for peace. Kira, in spite of all he has seen, still has hope, while Shinn has none.

To be perfectly fair, Shinn may well be right. But to lose the will to change the way things are is not right. Abraham Lincoln made the South change what was truly an evil practice of slavery even though the South did not think it was. Just because the majority thinks its OK to do that, doesn't mean we all have to conform with it. That is why there have been rebellions that have overthrown tyrants throughout history. Every dynasty in China fell because of evil and corrupt emperors and officials. It was up to heroes to change the way things are.

I don't think its fair to say Stellar cannot be developed. Any character can be developed, and Stellar's development into something other than a war machine could have been fascinating. Not to mention take Shinn's mind of warmongering. That fellow hasn't had a family for a long time and could have used Stellar as a means of replacing the brotherly love he had for his sister at least.

Funny. Few episodes ago, I was also clamouring for Shinn's death and utter humiliation. But I realise his character is more to be pitied rather than spited. He actually is a good kid who does have a heart as he demonstrated several times when he saved the people of the pacific island and also in the desert. But he fails to see the big picture or view the EA soldiers as human beings, with women and children of their own. He talks about his sense of morality but fails to demonstrate it to his enemies as well.

I've got another prediction. Seing that Destroy is, well destroyed, maybe it'll be a duel to the death between Kira and Shinn that eventually destroys Freedom and Impulse. Afterwards, maybe it'll be healing time for Shinn. Heck, maybe he'll be brought on Archangel. But that would really make Destuny even more like a rehash of Gundam Seed so I guess it won't happen.

One thing we all like to see in the end: THE HUNT FOR LORD JIBRIL!!!!! By the Gods, I hope that that ass finally shows himself in the Girty Lue and finally Archangel and Minerva have a worthy target. And Kira can finally finds someone he can kill with no remorse. That guy is one of the most evil person I've ever seen. Anyone who can watch the slaughter of cities with glee deserves a slow roasting death underneath Freedom's lightsaber. To keep on killing others just because they think Coordinators are OK... that stinks of Fascism. Heck, even his colleagues were afraid of the huge degree of damage Destroy could dish out.

Hell, at least Azrael got his hands dirty by participating in the battles. That guy is still in his room stroking his damn cat.