Episode 34 (may contain SPOILERS)

[Mae]

Man, these ep discussion threads are getting long.... But a guess this ep deserves it. Very fun. I loved the scene with the AA turning a corner and running right into their enemy was great, and I liked the ships' near miss too. Shinn and Kira's fight did not disappoint either. Shinn knew Kira would go for the arms and legs, so he just arranged to have them replaced and kept on fighting. I like how at the end Kira realized that his suit was too damaged and Shinn was still in good shape, He knew he was going to lose and was like "No! not here!"

And after this ep I've decided to join the "Shinn is evil" side (note, this is different from the "I hate Shinn" group, 'cause actually I think he's ok, just evil). There have been a lot of hints here and there, his ignoring Athrun's warnings to spare civilians while fighting, his irrational obsession with revenge, his evil giggle after shooting down Kira (really, he's got to work on that laugh), but, mainly, its his red eyes and evil eyebrows. I mean, just look at that expression. There's no way a guy with eyebrows like that could be a good guy

[heero]

Originally posted by: Digitalgirl

Originally posted by: heero

Originally posted by: DDBen

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Shinn had a "maniac face" because he was happy, no more no less.

@Shinji: WTF are you smoking? Since when does Shinn like killing? He does it to protect and save stuff, he isn't a fucking bloodthirsty nutcase.

I still say many of you let your hatred for Shinn cloud your judgement over what's happening in the show.

Shinn had that face because he was celebrating avenging Stellar in his head.

However, Terra I'm afraid that Shinn does enjoy killing to a certain degree. He certainly doesn't kill to protect anything instead he kills out of vengence every time. He didn't attempt to actually protect Stellar first dumping her on Neo and then standing there as Kira disabled destroy. In fact I can't think of a single time Shinn has ever fought to protect anything even when the Minerva has been attacked he has chosen to fight head on rather then to actually prevent the Minerva from taking damage. When they attempted to leave orb he simply got ticked off at the EA fleet and took the opertunity to get revenge for damaging his ego. When he saw the EA base being built and the civilians were being oppressed he took it upon himself to simply kill everyone in sight and take no prisoners not in fact choosing to protect the people from the possible shrapnel that he caused by shooting everything in site pointlessly.

I challenge you to give a single example where Shinns actions were purely for the purpose of protecting anything.

I take ur challenge and here's the example. Remember way back when Athrun just came back to zaft and Shinn didnt listen to Athrun's orders and destroyed the base(earth alliance's I think) and saved the men who were forced to work there by pulling away the fence so they could go back to their families. And then Athrun yelled at him for not obeying his orders. You should look at how Shinn became a zaft pilot. It started when his family was killed because of war. Now he is out to get all those who is trying to start wars. Look at his face when destroy was destroying cities and killing innocent people when he didnt know stellar was piloting it. Was he enjoying that? Nope, he was saying why would anyone want to do that. But he does seem like a maniac taking revenge on ppl who has hurted him (kinda like Sasuke in Naruto).

Shinn just wanted to be the "hero". It made him feel like he was almighty and powerful and better than everyone else.
and Shinn is NOT trying to stop the people who are starting wars. [Where did you get this insane idea from anyways?] He just wants revenge, and to "destroy the enemy"[If he continues this, the war will NEVER stop...unless they blow up Earth.] Shin is one of the one's keeping the war going. He refuses to see that anyone but himself has been hurt, and the pain and suffering he must have caused countless families because of his stupid, yet militaristic thoughts.
[To other people on this forum: Please forgive me if I sound like I'm just repeating your thoughts and stuff. I'll find the quotes and stuff if it's that big a deal.]

When you reply to what I say you should actually read wat I say before you ask how I got my ideas because I just wrote a whole paragraph that answers ur question. Rather it would be a good question to ask where you get the idea that Shinn just wants to be a hero. Did you not see Shinn's response to Dullindal's speach about defeating the Logo's and end war finally. He was smiling. Why would Shinn want more war so he could be a hero and kill everyone when his family and friend died because of it? Yes maybe he's becoming more ignorant because of his success over time but still doesnt mean that he's doing all of this just to be a hero. Also you should rewatch that episode where Shinn made a long speach with Dullindal way back when Haine made his first appearance. It totally supports my opinion and answers your question of "where I get my "insane" idea from". I think it was insane of you say Shinn is the one keeping the war going because he is only a soldier. If the leader of zaft didnt give any orders to fight, do you think any of this would be the same?