Originally posted by: FelixZeroAlastor
I know my numbers are insane but it was just an example though. I just wanted it to be dramatic so don't worry about it. And for future reference if I talk about Kira and battles it never includes the orb battle of GSD. If it sounded like I was including that one then I am sorry about that. I mean just a lot of the other battle that he participated in.

That aside we are way off topic so lets just cut this conversation here.
This isn't entirely off topic as it involves reasons why people would like Shinn or Kira better. However, I am fine with ending it here and saving further discussion for another thread just one brief note.

Kira in GSD has been involved in 4 battles I can recall feel free to add any others I may have missed. The first two were involving orb with Kira attempting to stop orb from fighting. The third one was with Destroy where he went to stop the massacre of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. The fourth battle was in episode 34 where the AA was being hunted down by Zaft. Unless I'm forgetting something entirely I neglect to see what battles your talking about if not the Orb battles.

Alright thats taken care of now for this next statement.

Originally posted by: darkshadow
stellars and mayu's death have everything to do which each other, he lost another 1 he loved, and they were both killed in a war/battle that didnt have to take place
Um as far as who started the war in GS the war had started before the series so aside from the bloody valantine we lack any actual information about the reasons for starting the war. As for Mayu dying in a battle that didn't have to take place... Orb was being attacked they were defending themselves and told the civilians to evacuate so the choices here were surrender and make matters worse or defend the country so I don't see how this battle could be avoided.

As for Stellar she was going around killing hundreds of thousands of people. While the war was "avoidable" due to the circumstances nothing could have really been done to stop it. As for the battle Stellar really started it yes she was being used by the EA, but none the less she was the one genociding entire cities. Destroy absolutely had to go had Kira not shot down Neo do you honestly think Shinn could have gotten Stellar to pause without Neo telling her to continue?

So in short we have the differnce between a innocent civilian who had a battle show up at her doorstep and a member of the EA who was the main force being used in the battle and who was killing everyone she ran into.

Please feel free to show me ANY similarities between these two characters other then the fact that Shinn cared about them both.