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Tue, 06-21-2005, 06:07 AM
#13
Genin
The Chess Board *spoilers*
Archangel = White Rook - DDBen, tm. this makes sense, since the rook is a fortifying castle
I disagree, Dullindal gets a report in ep 35 saying "we havent been able to confirm the sinking of archangel, but theres no doubt about the destruction of freedom... he then goes on to say
"Is it finally checkmate with this...no we cant be careless about the matter...the white queen is a formidable enemy"
Earlier in the same ep when dullindals making a speech we see
http://void01.xs.to/pics/05252/chess.jpg
Which shows the Black Pawn (Whom i assume is Shinn) with the White king in Check with a Bishop infront of it, Hence why i think that AA is a bishop and that the White King is Kira/Freedom (King and Bishop are next to each other in ep 29 as well before Rau picks up the White King)....
Roko said "Another thing: I don't think any white piece at all is considered the "king." If Kira is considered the King, then wouldn't it be game over since Dullindal thinks Freedom and Kira is killed? White King probably refers to all of Dullindal's enemies in general; you know, knock out all the supporting pieces, and the the game is basically yours since all the defenses are gone. To support this, in the last ep, Dullindal says "Is this finally Checkmate? No, the White Queen is a force to be reckoned with" (or something along those lines). Therefore, the white king is most likely not kira, since the report confirms Freedom as "destroyed" (which easily leads Dullindal to believe that Kira is dead)."
Your assuming what Dullindal is thinking, since when do we know what dullindal is thinking. I dont think White King symbolises all of dullindals enemies either, maybe the most powerful at any given time but not all his enemies...
Shinn = Black Pawn - We all pretty much assume hes a pawn, even the shinn lovers would have to agree...
DDBen said "1) Actually I think the issue is the pieces keep changing as Dullindale isn't only playing one game of chess. At any given battle anyone could be labeled as any given piece. This also follows closely with the issue of Dullindale playing both sides. 2) Note that the Minerva isn't a single piece but an entire side of the board on its own and none of the pawns really matter in the greater sceme of things. However even a pawn can become something great during any battle as represented by the chessboard this is a pawn making it to the other side of the board."
1) I agree cause it seems dullindals playing both side...
2) i disagree, every pawn has its uses and does matter in the events of time. Minerva plays the similar role AA did in the last war, so saying Minerva is a whole side rather than 1 piece doesnt fit the way Dullindals playing. On the Pawn issue biggest example is Shinn/Impulse who just wiped the floor with Kira/Freedom regardless of excuses...
kinggalaxia also wrote "Dulindall = Black King - commanding ZAFT and manipulating his minions to fight the White."
I disagree that dullindal is a piece in the game, he seems to me to be the puppet master not
an actual piece, hence why he is moving both sides...
Also by kinggalaxia
"Athrun in Savior = Black Knight
Athrun in Infinite Justice = White Knight - he'll switch sides and Rey will take his old place on the board w/ Legend"
Barumonk suggested "Athrun seems to be refered to as the Red Knight several times, by different people)"
Athrun could easily been a Red Knight that switchs sides...Currently though i dont see Athrun as being a piece on the board...I think rey is alot more powerful than we give him credit for, maybe a Rook possibly Black Queen but i guess we'll see what happens in latter eps regarding him...
And for anybody who brings up Ep 29, Dullindal only made 1 Move during ep 29. All Him and Rau really did was pick up the pieces and hold them answering questions to each other about Destiny...
I personally wonder if the Phantom Pain crew e.g Neo, Sting, Auel and Stellar were pieces... I need to redownload eps 3-7 and 12 to check...
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