Infinite Justice, disappointing?

[LokeXero]

Originally posted by: MeroTZ

Originally posted by: LokeXero
okay, that maybe true but SF isnt going to have that much of a jump ahead of freedom in the speed and agility and we know Impulse was faster than Freedom, so if Impulse's Speed > Freedoms Speed, it makes Sense that Destiny's Speed > SF's speed.

Um, call me crazy but I thought Shinn specifically stated Freedom was faster than Impulse? Not to mention all that stuff that made it look VERY fast. In fact, Freedom was significantly faster than Justice. Go watch episode 40 of SEED for proof, you can clearly see Freedom outrunning Justice.

As well, being Nuclear powered meant that Freedom had every reason to be faster than Impulse... why? Because with limitted energy, Impulse's propulsion had to be conserved. The whole thrust system for non Nuclear suits has to be built on efficiency in order to power all the other important systems.

A Nuclear suit on the other hand, can put as much energy into its boosters as the boosters can physically take. Screw efficiency, They can give 100% power to the engines 100% of the time. There's no way Impulse could compete with that, I dont remember anything anywhere indicating it was faster than Freedom.

well i guess your crazy then, Impulse is faster than Freedom, Shinn said Freedom is Stronger. Stronger not Faster. Speed is Shinns strong point, his greatest ability, Dullindal says so and praises him for it.

what was the relevance between Justice and Freedom, seriously why bring up a point that doesnt have relevance.

If Freedom was faster than Impulse then explain howcome Impulse was able to block/avoid him so often...

Originally posted by: MeroTZ
That said, I think that Destiny is going to have a "Sprint" type, strait line advantage over S-Freedom. However, I would bet that S-Freedom is going to be superior in maneuverabilty.

As for Legend being faster than anything... not a chance. Its totally not designed for flight. In fact, I'd say the fact that its nuclear powered is the only reason its capable of generating enough boost to fly.

I dont think Strike Freedom will be faster or more maneuverabilty than Destiny...Destiny is tailored to Shinn's Strengths and Weakness's based on Data from the Destruction of "Freedom" even Gil said so in the latest ep 36.

On Legend. Isnt Legend pretty much a reborn Providence. Isnt Rey like a Rau Clone.

Rau Le Cruset kicked the absolute crap outta Kira (Just like Yzak did too the Druggies) before Kira went Seed and Rau wasnt even in Seed . Providence was faster than Freedom and Rau was a better pilot than Kira too...

So explain to me why you reckon Legend wont be Kickass Fast in Reys hands..

[Dannynonsense]

okay once again all the suits are powerfull fast and maneurevable at this point its hard to tell which one is faster but from the linearts i would have to give to freedom because once again there built by diffrent people so its possible they might have used diffrent technology while building them. though it wouldnt matter since in the end it comes down to whose the better pilot and who would be able to take more advantage of the suits true potential.

on a side note what merotz said about freedom being faster is true impluse's movements were up there but not as fast but who needs speed when you know were the person is gonna aim already.

next each suit is built to be used in different ways everyone wants to believe there the same but there different, legend is the improve providence so it is faster but its speed isn't what the pilot or designer would capatalize on. since the dragoon system allows him to target any enemy from a remote location. the reason why legend has so many thruster because it is gigantic ( Really just bigger than destiny or providence) so it needs more thrusters to move.

on a final note i doubt lacus would make a new suit for kira that is basically a remake of the original freedom the purpose of the new freedom is to completely out due its predacessor so strike freedom will undoubtedly be equal or more powerfull than destiny imo

[MeroTZ]

Originally posted by: LokeXero

Originally posted by: MeroTZ

Originally posted by: LokeXero
okay, that maybe true but SF isnt going to have that much of a jump ahead of freedom in the speed and agility and we know Impulse was faster than Freedom, so if Impulse's Speed > Freedoms Speed, it makes Sense that Destiny's Speed > SF's speed.

Um, call me crazy but I thought Shinn specifically stated Freedom was faster than Impulse? Not to mention all that stuff that made it look VERY fast. In fact, Freedom was significantly faster than Justice. Go watch episode 40 of SEED for proof, you can clearly see Freedom outrunning Justice.

As well, being Nuclear powered meant that Freedom had every reason to be faster than Impulse... why? Because with limitted energy, Impulse's propulsion had to be conserved. The whole thrust system for non Nuclear suits has to be built on efficiency in order to power all the other important systems.

A Nuclear suit on the other hand, can put as much energy into its boosters as the boosters can physically take. Screw efficiency, They can give 100% power to the engines 100% of the time. There's no way Impulse could compete with that, I dont remember anything anywhere indicating it was faster than Freedom.

well i guess your crazy then, Impulse is faster than Freedom, Shinn said Freedom is Stronger. Stronger not Faster. Speed is Shinns strong point, his greatest ability, Dullindal says so and praises him for it.

what was the relevance between Justice and Freedom, seriously why bring up a point that doesnt have relevance.

If Freedom was faster than Impulse then explain howcome Impulse was able to block/avoid him so often...

Dullindal saying that Impulse is the newest and fastest mobile suit likely doesn't take into account unacknowledged top secret suits like Freedom. If you have anything else that would indicate someone with technical knowledge of Freedom and Impulse saying that Impulse is faster (AKA Kira saying "OMG Impulse is faster than Freedom!") then please give me evidence from an episode. Impulse was able to go toe to toe to Freedom because of Shinns skill and preparation. Lets give Shinn some credit here, he won that fight because of his skills, not because of a superior suit.

The Justice comment was in response to someone rating Justice as the faster suit.

Originally posted by: MeroTZ
That said, I think that Destiny is going to have a "Sprint" type, strait line advantage over S-Freedom. However, I would bet that S-Freedom is going to be superior in maneuverabilty.

As for Legend being faster than anything... not a chance. Its totally not designed for flight. In fact, I'd say the fact that its nuclear powered is the only reason its capable of generating enough boost to fly.

I dont think Strike Freedom will be faster or more maneuverabilty than Destiny...Destiny is tailored to Shinn's Strengths and Weakness's based on Data from the Destruction of "Freedom" even Gil said so in the latest ep 36.

On Legend. Isnt Legend pretty much a reborn Providence. Isnt Rey like a Rau Clone.

Rau Le Cruset kicked the absolute crap outta Kira (Just like Yzak did too the Druggies) before Kira went Seed and Rau wasnt even in Seed . Providence was faster than Freedom and Rau was a better pilot than Kira too...

So explain to me why you reckon Legend wont be Kickass Fast in Reys hands..

The fact that Destiny is built for Shinn means nothing at all as far as comparing Destiny to S-Freedom. As far as Legend goes, it kinda looks like a lighter build of Providence. But as has been said, Providence was neither faster than Freedom, nor was Rau a better pilot. KIra was nearly beaten by the overwhelming power of a fully functional DRAGOON system, not because of Providence having superior speed or a better pilot.

Not to mention Legend is one of the least aerodynamic mobile suits so far. Its got a giant disk on its back. I dont see how it CAN fly.

Oh well.

[Dannynonsense]

all the new gundams deserve respect they all are forces to be reckon with but at this time in the series how is it you can compare any of them to the other and automatically say ones better just because different people built it that different mauafacture doesnt automatically mean less quality or poor technology. so imo its rather stupid to have this debate. im beginng to think this is just another kira vs. shinn thing in disguise so its rather pointless. seeing that asuran is my favoriter character

to wrap this up its better to just wait and see what the suits are cappable of so we can have some accurate comments