Originally posted by: AtHRunOwNZaLL
no i think he meant that as long as kira is alive in athrun's heart then he isn't dead, but he and dullindal thinks kira is dead physically
Yep, thats what I meant by that. But either way, both Rey and Dullindal know for sure that Freedom is out of the picture and they know that without it, Kira can't participate in Dullindal's chess game (basically the war).