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    Softsub are ok. Well at least for the 4 first minutes. The video quality is really good.

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    This picture is convincing enough for me:


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    From what I have seen from Anime-United in their other releases, they suck ass.

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    Yeah, that's what I figured...I'll wait for Anime-Kraze.

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    The ratings for this release are superb on AniDB. The Y-F part is Yoroshiku and they apparently did a fantastic job on this sub. I'm downloading right now to check it out.

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    The ratings for this release are superb on AniDB. The Y-F part is Yoroshiku and they apparently did a fantastic job on this sub. I'm downloading right now to check it out.
    You're joking, right? Those ratings are retarded.

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    Good episode, a little confusing, but looks to be extremely promising as a series.

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    Damn, this show owns, especially the animation. This is the best animation I've ever seen. The Yoroshiku sub isn't all that bad either.

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    Well I watched their sub and it is decent. It doesn't "suck ass" like someone mentioned.

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    It was an interesting episode. Technical aspects were really good, like BOARD_of_command said, and the character design pleasing enough. And detailed. Hard to say anything about the story other than it seems dark and oppressive. Nice. It would be good to learn quickly something about the characters, though, and why they are doing what they are doing.

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    Ergo Proxy

    oh my god the opening quote is in Italian!
    and what's more, I've seen it before, on a statue made by Michelangelo adorning a tomb in Florence!! Can't remember who, but I think he was from the Medici family...

    The translation in the sub is very close, but it has a couple errors. It should be:

    Dear/precious to me is sleep, and even more (precious) L'Esser* of stone,
    while the wrong and shame endure/remain.
    To not see, to not feel/sense, is great fortune/luck for me,
    therefore do not wake/rouse me. Hush, Speak softly.

    *The most awkward thing in this sentence is the use of L'Esser (truncated form of Essere). Alone, Essere is the verb 'to be', but putting the article IL (abbreviated to a simple L') in front of it makes it a noun, one with tons of meanings. So the phrase could also be read as : "and even more (precious to me, is) the being/creature/being made/existence/state of stone"

    What I find weird about this quote is that it was made as a reply to a contemporary of Michelangelo's who said:

    La Notte, che tu vedi in si dolci atti
    dormir, fu da un Angelo scolpita
    in questo sasso, e perché dorme, ha vita,
    destala se non l'credi e parleratti

    Translated:
    The night, which you see sleeping in a state of grace/ sweetness (dormir goes up here for translation purposes)
    Was by an Angel sculpted
    In this stone, and although sleeping, has life
    Wake her if you do not believe it (that she is alive) and she will speak to you.

    In all reality they were just talking about art, sculpture especially. And, upon further investigation, I found that the part sculpted on the statue (the part quoted in the beginning of Ergo Proxy) is only the first part of Michelangelo's reply. The second part is, translated (and this one was a bitch to translate I'll have you know):

    The greatest artist does not have any concept
    that is not already contained inside of the material
    and only the hand that is guided by intellect can arive at this

    But if you try to think of this (particularly the part that Michelangelo was responding to) in a more general sense, it is interesting. I wonder what the meaning of the quote(s) will have to do with the storyline...

    Oh yes, I enjoyed the episode. I was sorta disappointed with the part of 'Paranoid Android' that they chose to use for the ending theme... so many better parts in that song.

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    Heh heh. Somehow I get the feeling you would have enjoyed it after the quote no matter what kind of stuff had followed [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]


    I find one of the first scenes in the episode to go pretty much hand in hand with the opening quote:

    "At that moment... everything came back to me.
    All of my creator's evil plans.
    No matter what I do I cannot resist them.
    However... However...
    I must punish them for what they have done.
    I can hear the sound... Of Awakening..."

    Well, there's not really any need to explain or elaborate, if you think about it a bit. Although this still doesn't really tell what was the meaning for the whole story.

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    Kraco I remember that line too, but I thought it stands as a contrast with the opening quote. The opening quote (and especially the second half of Michelangelo's verse) seems to imply that the creator has limited power, and that whatever is inherint in the material is the strongest element in shaping how it turns out.

    Also, you all know how much I love looking up VAs, and I noticed right off the bat that Pino (the young scientist) had a voice I'd heard a million times. It's because the actress also did Rickert (Berserk), Kohaku (Inuyasha), Riku (Blood+), Mipple (lol, that name cracks me up, Pretty Cure) and -ugh- Relena (Gundam Wing) .... well, that last one leaves a sour taste in my mouth... Can't believe that whiny bitch 'HEEEEEEROOOOO!!!" is the same voice as Rickert 'Sugoi!' Still, a pretty talented voice. The rest of the Ergo Proxy cast is a bunch of nobodies.

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    The italian at the beginning is from Michelangelo's book of poetry, Rime di Michelangelo. Also, as masamuneehs mentioned, it's on the statue Michelangelo made for Giuliano de Medici.

    Official Translation:
    Sweet is my sleep, but more to be mere stone,
    So long as ruin and dishonour reign;
    To bear nought, to feel nought, is my great gain;
    Then wake me not, speak in an undertone!

    I wouldn't read too much into it.

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    http://www.point-blank.cc:16384/allo...5D.avi.torrent

    Ergo Proxy episode 2. Pretty damn good episode too. Really a beautiful anime to watch, and the story seems promising.

    Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".

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    The word "Conspiracy" would suit this episode, perhaps the whole series, quite fittingly. That's actually very nice, because if build skillfully, they are indeed valuable plot elements.

    And very good animation, like masamuneehs said. But I still don't know why all those people were just standing still when other people around them were tossed around like toys. I would have run like hell to take cover somewhere, not just idle and wonder when's my turn to fly head first and smash some windows. That scene could have used a little more animation, really.

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    episode two was confusing. I want to know why they originally made Proxy. It seems the other one is the guy in the red suit. Who were the guys that broke into the girls house?

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    Just thought I'd revive this thread to say that I started watching this series recently, I'm about halfway through, and it's FREAKING AWESOME. I wish I'd watched it before. I knew Vincent was going to be badass from when he chose to fall out of the dome, and we got to see his piercing green eyes. Hopefully the second half of this series will be as good as the first.

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    Haha. Congratulations on another superb series under your belt.

    Its been two years, and I can't remember much of the plot. I think a rewatch is in order.
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    I can't believe it's been seven years since this series was released. And it's still one of my absolute favorites.

    Reviving this thread for a moment because I'm watching it again, and I have the most important, unanswered question of all time ever: Why does Pino's hair change from brown to purple? I've searched for an answer, but even the vast reaches of the interwebs can't supply one. I have a theory that maybe she has multiple hair attachments, or that she simply dyed it to try and avoid detection. I guess a third theory could be that the virus caused her hair color to change, but then there would be evidence of that with the other cases, no?

    Anyways, if someone has another theory, or maybe even an answer, I'd love to hear it. If not... well, we can allow this thread to become forgotten once more.

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