The Triumvirate

[Strike Freedom]

Terracosmo, I agree with your statement, it is all subjective on the subject of defence. There is no objective view. I was referring to my point of view [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]. Secondly, I respect your take on the matter, and I just gave my input as well, I have enjoyed this virtual conversation thus far! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

PSJ, if I threw it out there for that thought then that is putting some thought into it, regarding the Jesus comparison. Kira is the ultimate coordinator, as such he surpasses all humans and coordinators, in a way the perfect being. Jesus is seen as the perfect human being as well. Yes, that thought was in my head, Jesus and Kira both encompass in my view what appears to be "good." Now I say "good" because it is a subjective statement, others may differ. Kira is self sacraficing, he does not want to fight but feels he must in order to make a difference. He truly believes that one person can make a difference, and he is that difference. Jesus did the same thing by dying on the cross. Kira and Jesus both preach about the right thing to do. I could go more into depth into this but this is not a report. However, I know there are those that will disagree or say this is weak because honestly I do not have the time right now to go into depth with this theory. However, let it be known that Kira is a good person in my eyes, true he has his flaws but he is going down what he believes is his right path.

I definitely disagree with your statement in that he cannot make a difference. One person can make a difference.

Let us look at some people, both bad and good or none of the above in some people's views that have made a difference: Jesus, Ghandi, Mother Theresa, Hitler, Stalin, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Jackie Robinson, Martin Luther King Jr, Martin Luther, John Paul II, Alexander the Great, Ceaser, Achilles (though fictitious), Moses, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and so on.

The power to believe is beyond that of any other power, only Love surpasses it. If he truly believed that he could not make a difference then Kira would have never tried. Here's a life lesson: you are your worst enemy at times. Think about it, how many times have we placed barriers on ourselves, thus limiting ourselves in different ways. "I can't do this" or "this will never work" or "I'll never win" or "What's the point" or "Who cares" are all statements we tell ourselves in order to justify our inability to act and believe in ourselves. I myself have fallen victim to this at times. Yet, though many may doubt you, if you have the guts to stickup for what you believe in and keep trying, I assure you that although failure may be constant there wil be victory in the end. There may be many reasons that hold us back from doing something: fear, inability to fully believe in one self, and so on.

I do think Kira has made a difference and will make a difference in GSD. No he hasn't is what some may say, but I say look at the facts: Athuran is back with AA thanks to Kira, Cagalli regained her will thanks to Kira and Lacus' support as well as that of her people, Kira saved the Eternal from what might have been its destruction and/or defeat, Kira has protected Lacus from various attacks, and so on. It may be safe to say that without Kira, the events that have taken place thus far would be different. Some may say it is an insignificant difference, others a great difference, others could be neutral, the point is that he has made some difference in my eyes.

Lastly, Kira is not naive, rather he is idealistic. Naive would be equivalent to ignorant and Kira is not that. Kira knows the path he must walk, in GS he had no idea why he was fighting. Kira wants a resolution without battles, he does not want to kill anyone. Towards the end of GS this is how Kira began thinking. Athuran is not back to square one. It is just that events have repeated themselves (history repeats itself). Athuran was doing what he felt was right when joining Zaft. He felt useless just being by Cagalli's side. He wanted to do what he thought was right. He believed the Chairman was an upright and just man. The Chairman spoke of goals that were similar to Athuran's view. If you recall in the beginning the Chairman wanted a peaceful resolution to things. Athuran is in the same predicament as in GS, but it does not mean that he as a character is back to square one. His thoughts are different, he's a bit more mature, and he under different circumstances. In GS, he was conflicted (as was Kira) in facing his best friend, he had many other conflictions later on in "what he was fighting for." None of that exists here, Athuran (in GSD) knows that he is fighting to uphold what he believes in, the right path. In GSD, he was fighting out of anger. He wanted revenge and he felt justified. Athuran in GSD is not fighting to feel justified, he has no reason to.

I read that so many people want more character development out of them, I then have a response: How do you want them to develop more? What do you want to see? I feel that they have reached a point in which they are walking the right path in their hearts and minds, if so then there is no need to change any further. Think of it like this, if a person is comfortable with their way of living why would they change it. The only reason people aspire for more or to change is that there must be a desire within the person. But if the person is fine in their current state, then he/she will not want to change or most likely will not change. I hope I make myself clear here, but if not please let me know and I would love to explain it more in depth. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[fox_t]

well said.