Seed Mode

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: Takeda Natsuke
To be specifically honest, the Wikipedia definition sort of has me confused. It states that Seed mode can be obtained through situations where someone battles with a particular resolve.

Now the definition itself is right in my opinion, but it leaves a huge question mark on certain cracaters. Rey for example. He has ALWAYS had a particular resolve and in my opinion, is just as calm as Kira is. Don't you think Rey should have gone SEED mode as well? Now before I asked this, I realized that Rey is a Newtype, but Kira, in a sense, is becoming a Newtype as well since he has the ability to sense other Newtypes.

And what about Dullindal? It states in the definition that Lacus entered SEED mode after a long philosophical conversation by herself about nature and death. As we know, Dullindal also had the same experience when he played his chess set on one of the episodes were he was remembering his past and applying the ideals he's learned in the present war.

I ALSO never really noticed that there were two types of SEED modes. What ALSO shocked me more was that Athrun was able to get one of the SEED modes BEFORE Kira did, which I give him props to.

Indeed, SEED mode is too confusing, because there really is no one perfect definition for it. If anyone could do it when the situation arises, then practically by now everyone can do it. You have to remember that it's not always Athrun, Kira, and Shinn that could be having these dramatic moments. in fact, someone else can probably have it as well. Honestly, I'd REALLY LOVE to see some random pilot on an Astray go SEED mode. That would be SOOOO cool! lol

That definition is flawed in my opinion. It is true but it is only half of it. As i said in my first post in this thread SEED mode is the next step in human evolution so anyone can obtain the power to go SEED but these people need a resolve to be able to go SEED. It is possible that neither Dullindal nor Rey posess the SEED and that is the reason they haven't gone SEED. It isn't exactly a common trait.

As fr there being 2 types of SEED mode that is incorrect. There is only one SEED mode which you usually first get when you are emotionally pressured, in time you can learn how to turn it on and off by will.

As for Athrun going SEED before Kira can you give me a reference to where Athrun goes SEED first? I remember Kira going SEED when he has to protect the AA from Blitz and does so with a Knee kick to Blitz's chest in ep 11 i think.

[Kovash]

Just a few points.

- The differences in SEED mode animation don't nessicarily denote an entirely different type of SEED, I'm more inclined to believe that they just sped up the (very slow) animation form the original SEED activation to get it over and done with. Who maintains Wikipedia anyway? I thought it relied on submissions from readers.

- Lacus going SEED? I remeber the theory and I thought it was pretty weird that she got the eyes but had no animation. But would would be the point? She just sits in the chair and watches everything happening, the only order she's ever given was acctually a request to get Eternal launched. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

- Blue Cosmos was ORIGNALY a very small religious group that was opposed to various things, the Coordinators beign one of them. Eventually it's ranks became populated with fanatics against the Coordinators and people just started using it as an excuse, sort of like a banner of war. Oh, and Blue Cosmos had nothing to do with the creation of George Glenn, they were a religion against that sort of thing.

- As for the requirements for SEED mode, Wkipedia is right to some regaurd. 'Seed mode can be obtained through situations where someone battles with a particular resolve'. Powerful, desperate desires seem to activate SEED mode, as everyone who has ever attained SEED mode has been fighting against overwhelming odds in order to protect their beliefs. Rey has never been desperate about anything, so he can't do SEED. Though why Kira later gains the ability to use SEED whever he desires is still unexplained.

[Takeda Natsuke]

You missed my reasoning when i said Athrun got SEED first. I said I thought there were two types of SEED modes, and Athrun was able to activate the second SEED mode. The definition said that Shinn and Athrun were able to get the second type of SEED mode and Kira soon followed, so I gave Athrun props for getting to that point first.

[PSJ]

Originally posted by: Takeda Natsuke
You missed my reasoning when i said Athrun got SEED first. I said I thought there were two types of SEED modes, and Athrun was able to activate the second SEED mode. The definition said that Shinn and Athrun were able to get the second type of SEED mode and Kira soon followed, so I gave Athrun props for getting to that point first.

What? Athrun and Shinn hasn't gone SEED before Kira. Kira did it early in SEED and Athrun later. Shinn wasn't even in SEED so there are no way he could have gone SEED before Kira. There are not 2 diffrent types of SEED mode, try to read some of the replies here instead of just writing your own. Wikipedia sucks.