Well, I've posted all the arguments over Sasuke/Neji in this thread that I'm going to post, and I ain't gonna posts no more. People came in late in the game with a few shit opinions, you're using the past few posters to define your argument. It's not my fault Sasuke fans are somehow more intelligent than Neji fan when it comes to debating these things.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Ha, I'm a Neji fan more than a Sasuke fan, and I still say after Sasuke learned how to use CS level 2, he would kick the shit out of Neji (well, probably anybody below Sannin or Naruto's level at that). Before then, well, I woulda went with Neji, but that doesn't matter anymore.Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
Well, I've posted all the arguments over Sasuke/Neji in this thread that I'm going to post, and I ain't gonna posts no more. People came in late in the game with a few shit opinions, you're using the past few posters to define your argument. It's not my fault Sasuke fans are somehow more intelligent than Neji fan when it comes to debating these things.
Edit: 'Course, now that I think about it, Kakashi did say Sasuke's growth would pretty much stop if he relied on the cs, so maybe he hasn't gotten better at all. Even still, I would take Sasuke with cs2 over Neji, even after 3 years of growth on Neji's part and none on Sasuke's.
"Pudding can't fill the emptiness inside me! But it'll help."
*Nods*Originally posted by: The Heretic Azazel
Well, I've posted all the arguments over Sasuke/Neji in this thread that I'm going to post, and I ain't gonna posts no more. People came in late in the game with a few shit opinions, you're using the past few posters to define your argument. It's not my fault Sasuke fans are somehow more intelligent than Neji fan when it comes to debating these things.
Another reason that I don't think Orochimaru would refrain from training Sasuke is that this seems to be a kind of deal made in hell, to which both parties are bound to an agreement. Orochimaru has to train Sasuke and give him not only the abilities of a normal ninja, but powers that he could not get elsewhere. Sasuke has to merge with Orochimaru. If Orochimaru tries to go back on the agreement, Sasuke'll just leave. He doesn't have to announce his departure so that he's not stopped. If Sasuke goes back on his side of the bargain, well, he'll end up fighting Orochimaru, which might actually happen. This is not a deal that either side can easily break. At least I don't think so.Originally posted by: XanBcoo
I'd think Oro would want Sasuke to improve as much as he could if he was going to use him as a container. I don't think he would allow Sasuke to rely only on the Curse Seal, stunting his development and damaging his body. But that has nothing to do with the discussion since we're only considering pre-time jump Neji/Sasuke (just makes me want to see the improved Sasuke even more!) I still think that If, let's say, Neji had fought Sasuke at the Valley of the End instead of Naruto, Sasuke would have decimated Neji with the ammount of power he had. No contest. This is now evidenced by Naruto being able to attack Orochimaru successfully while at the same stage of power as when he fought Sasuke.
I agree. I'm also a Neji fan, but there's no denying he wouldn't have a chance.Ha, I'm a Neji fan more than a Sasuke fan, and I still say after Sasuke learned how to use CS level 2, he would kick the shit out of Neji (well, probably anybody below Sannin or Naruto's level at that).
"You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."
- Inquisitor Czevak
Sasuke would win.. just because of Orochimaru's seals Neji has no chance
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
I still don't know why people find oro to be so untrustworthy. As I said back in the oro/tsunade ordeal, the guy has no reason to go back on his word...I'd like to think of him as the godfather: The dangerous leader type that has a sense of pride to not pull underhanded pranks on those that offer him support...as long as its mutually beneficial.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Uh doesn't Orochimaru tend to kill off his subordinates/village people for experiments? That's not mutually beneficial!
And he was still going to destroy Kohona after Tsunade healed his hands, even though he said he wouldn't. (lie)
"Leaving hell is not the same as entering it." - Tierce Japhrimel
It's painfully obvious he was lying to Tsunade from the moment he told her he wouldn't.
"They call it 'The American Dream' because you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
He wouldve resurrected Nawaki and Dan though
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
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Two new ones
Sapphire, Ero-Fan
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UPDATED SCORE
SASUKE : 23
[ Assertn, Barles, SFreedomZGMFx20a, chet_chetty, Mut@chi, Nests, XanBcoo, coud656, Phoenix20578, Shuurai, 6Zabuza9, Chaoskiddo, darkmetal505, Edort4, Ban Kai, Zein, masamuneehs, Aramis, KoKo37,God#2, Strifexgx, Sapphire, Ero-Fan ]
NEJI : 20
[DrCitan, Heero, Terra, Dark Maginn, Mite Gai, Turkish-S, Naruto_RNG, Dezalanel, Vasco, Heretic-Azazel, Shinda, Jurojin, Y, Kensee, elmojo, Tinks, iMUSTbeTHEdevil, UltxDarkRedXl, isso, Necromas ]
Holy crap... after reading (and understanding) it's obvious to me that Sasuke will come out on top. Although that fight will be very hardcore and at the end of it both would be near-death (or one of them being dead) I'm going to say it's him that will stay standing....he falls down due to injuries after that.. but there you have it
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Sasuke will win
So many Sasuke votes within few days, I cant believe it.
New ones :
Deadfire, aznroyale
UPDATED SCORE
SASUKE : 25
[ Assertn, Barles, SFreedomZGMFx20a, chet_chetty, Mut@chi, Nests, XanBcoo, coud656, Phoenix20578, Shuurai, 6Zabuza9, Chaoskiddo, darkmetal505, Edort4, Ban Kai, Zein, masamuneehs, Aramis, KoKo37,God#2, Strifexgx, Sapphire, Ero-Fan, Deadfire, aznroyale ]
NEJI : 20
[DrCitan, Heero, Terra, Dark Maginn, Mite Gai, Turkish-S, Naruto_RNG, Dezalanel, Vasco, Heretic-Azazel, Shinda, Jurojin, Y, Kensee, elmojo, Tinks, iMUSTbeTHEdevil, UltxDarkRedXl, isso, Necromas ]
I think that sasuke would win only on the terms that I like him better and for no other technical reason.
But....... I beleive that Negi could have beat sasuke hands down before he had the cs!!
Just my input.
Also all these made up possible fight scenerio's I think are pointless for the fact that anything can happen, While at the same time I think that they were all very well thoughout and well put.
Change your animated avatar. Its against the rules. Thank you.
That much is obvious. As we have just seen in the dub, before he trained with Kakashi prior to the final test of the Chuunin exam, without his cs Sasuke was easy prey for Lee who, it has been shown, was no match for Neji. Before the forest of death a Sasuke vs. Neji match up would have been over hilariously fast.Originally posted by: sevyfez
But....... I beleive that Negi could have beat sasuke hands down before he had the cs!!
Yet after he learned the Chidori, dramatically increased his speed, and unlocked his Sharingan further, he would have been strong enough to go head to head with Neji without resorting to the curse seal. Maybe he wouldn't have won, but I think he'd be able to hold his own. He's a genious ninja, strongest of his class, and has the Sharingan. Don't take him lightly. The curse seal just guarntees his win [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
Is everyone forgetting that he devolped his sharingan to a whole new amazing level?
We didn't forget. Mostly because that didn't happen.
Oh don't misunderstand, I'm not saying that Sasuke as he is now, or even after Kakashi's training couldn't defeat Neji. I'm just saying that at one point in time, he wouldn't have stood a chance.Originally posted by: XanBcoo
Yet after he learned the Chidori, dramatically increased his speed, and unlocked his Sharingan further, he would have been strong enough to go head to head with Neji without resorting to the curse seal. Maybe he wouldn't have won, but I think he'd be able to hold his own. He's a genious ninja, strongest of his class, and has the Sharingan. Don't take him lightly. The curse seal just guarntees his win [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img].
Afterall, there was once a time when Itachi would be killed by kakashi without any significant effort, but that time is long gone.
That was my trump card agianst <u>Strider</u>(R.I.P)Originally posted by: XanBcoo
The curse seal just guarntees his win[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
@ anphorus : Who did you vote for?
New votes : MASTA-OF-DISASTA, sevyfez
UPDATED SCORE
SASUKE : 27
[ Barles, SFreedomZGMFx20a, chet_chetty, Mut@chi, AssertnFailure,Nests, XanBcoo,coud656, Phoenix20578, Shuurai, 6Zabuza9, Chaoskiddo, darkmetal505, Edort4, Ban Kai, Zein, masamuneehs, Aramis, KoKo37,God#2, Strifexgx, Sapphire, Ero-Fan, Deadfire, aznroyale, MASTA-OF-DISASTA, sevyfez ]
NEJI : 20
[DrCitan, Heero, Terra, Dark Maginn, Mite Gai, Turkish-S, Naruto_RNG, Dezalanel, Vasco, Heretic-Azazel, Shinda, Jurojin, Y, Kensee, elmojo, Tinks, iMUSTbeTHEdevil, UltxDarkRedXl, isso, Necromas ]
I am at work, and cannot directly quote the episode or the manga chapter as it is archived at home, but Sasuke's statement was something along the lines of:
"The subtle way his chakra enters and powers his body, I can see his next movement .."
He then goes on considering how if he's been using it to avoid being struck, he should also be able to time it accordingly and attack prior to Naruto fully being in place and taking the offensive.
But, because of the translation (taken from two manga scan teams and one anime team - unsure if it was DB or AonE, I have both), it implied those echoes were more ninjutsu intensive due to the inclusion of chakra, which had it been normal motion and running, more relative to taijutsu, only stamina would have been used.
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