Sasuke VS Neji

[darkmetal505]

thank u farcityrid.
u guys are making such a big deal out of this cursed seal. as we've been told the cursed seal uses only the user's chakra, it doesn't add any. so u guys are saying sasuke will not loose any chakra while fighting neji and somewhere in middle of the fight he activates it and owns neji. first of all we're comparing two different people with two different fighting style. neji is a close combat person and sasuke is long range combat person. excluding chidori every other known move of sasuke at that time was long range. all of neji's moves are close combat type, so are u guys saying sasuke knows more about close combat type (taijutsu) moves more then neji? and neji's speed should be clear when he does that 128 or wut ever move he does. I didn't see any1 counter attacking it while it is being done.
Cursed seal is a good jutsu only for very short amount of time, neji can hide, run around take 2-3 hits, till the effect is over then sasuke is F-ed. neji already expreinced seal 2 lvl of fighting, so he think things through. unfortunatly i have no cluse of how the seal actually works due to the fact that it did not made any since in naruto vs. sasuke fight. if it did really use the users chakra then that fight would of been finished in a very different way.
and last wiki is not a good place for backing up your claims, they make a lot of stuff up, or take people idea and name it their own.

Sasuke fights both long range and short range. Have you seen his fights, against Rock Lee, Oro, Naruto, Gaarra, Oro's subordinate, the sound four, etc. He uses taijutsu in all of them buddy. No taijutsu attack? What is Shishi Rendan then? Lvl 2 curse seal forcefully extracts chakra out of the body. Sasuke is fast enough by then to slay Neji. What do you mean that the curse seal in the naruto vs sasuke fight didn't make sense, it's the only time we've seen it (excluding the chunnin exam), thus the only fight we can draw speculation from.

[darkshadow]

I'm not bickering, im debating <_< and i think you meant kidomaru not kimimaro right?

also i cant see sasuke dodging ALL of the 128 strikes, they are just too fast, also sasuke doesnt really have to get close, 128 strikes doubles the range of the circle, and even if sasuke can dodge 128 strikes, neji always has 361 strikes ( talk about insane speed and range here ) even if sasuke blocks it, those few strikes that land on his arms would make his arms useless, and im pretty sure neji has increased the range of his kaiten after training with hiashi ( or hizashi >_> ), since his kaiten is like, f'king huge, and this is still pre time jump, sasuke would probably break his arm again if he tried a chidori on the kaiten

[darkmetal505]

I'm not bickering, im debating <_< and i think you meant kidomaru not kimimaro right?

also i cant see sasuke dodging ALL of the 128 strikes, they are just too fast, also sasuke doesnt really have to get close, 128 strikes doubles the range of the circle, and even if sasuke can dodge 128 strikes, neji always has 361 strikes ( talk about insane speed and range here ) even if sasuke blocks it, those few strikes that land on his arms would make his arms useless, and im pretty sure neji has increased the range of his kaiten after training with hiashi ( or hizashi >_> ), since his kaiten is like, f'king huge, and this is still pre time jump, sasuke would probably break his arm again if he tried a chidori on the kaiten

Its not the range of the kaiten, its the thickness, or rather the power of it. A black chidori is backed by immense power which would probably slice through a field of rotating chakra despite its size (look at what it did when it collided with rasengan). Isn't the 361 strike of Neji's after the time jump?

[darkshadow]

no he learns it just before the time jump, while under hiashi's training, and yes i think he would be able to get through it ( kaiten ), but i think the rotational and stoppig for of the kaiten would slow chidori to a crawl or even to a full stop, getting him in range of the circle, bang ### strikes <_<

[Jadugar]

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UPDATED SCORE

SASUKE : 33
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NEJI : 27
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[The Heretic Azazel]

Isn't the 361 strike of Neji's after the time jump?

Technically the move doesn't exist.. Neji never used it in the manga.

[Naruto_RNG]

@XanBcoo

"Neji would also not have the time to "Think things through" like he did with Kimimaro, because Sasuke would not give him the time to do so as Kidomaru did."

we never know?

"I also don't see how experience of the curse seal plays any part in this fight though. What's there to know? That it makes them stronger?"

I think u just answered yourself there. wouldn't u like to know who u dealing with when your fighting someone? wut u close your eye and say; hell so wut if he has transformed into a girl I'll beat him anyway. I'm sure this would help him fight better cause he has some-what knowledge of this transformation.

and the all mighty three dotted sharingan and the the weak byakugan. we have no clue of wut will be the result when these two collide, since it has never been happened before. it's been said, and we saw that 3 doted sharingan can predict the next move, and it has also been said and we saw that byakugan can see the chakra movements. since one need chakra to move any part of the body (in naruto world) wouldn't u think that neji could react much faster to sasuke's incoming attacks then the 3 dotted sharingan? or cancel each other out? now don't give me bull and try to come up with something good.
@darkmetal505
do u really think that Naruto vs. sasuke fight made any since power wise with all the chakra he used at that time?

[darkmetal505]

@darkmetal505
do u really think that Naruto vs. sasuke fight made any since power wise with all the chakra he used at that time?

Yes I do, but I'm not really sure what you are asking. If you are asking "since Sasuke already used up so much chakra, how did the curse seal activiate? So does it make sense?" My answer is yes because the Seishingan drug was used to forcefully activate lvl 2, but it put Sasuke in a near death state. Because of the barrier setup by the Sound Four it reduced the side effect and allowed Sasuke to gain the extra level. As seen in the chunnin exam (the forest one), when sasuke arose after fighting Oro, he was emitting purple chakra. Notice that he was supposed to be knocked out (meaning he couldn't use chakra), but the seal forcefully uprooted chakra in his body. In the way I see it, each ninja has a amount of chakra, and if depleted they die. Thus the body puts a barrier to how much chakra one can extract, but the seal removes the barrier. Thus by means of the curse seal, if taken to far, the seal will consume the body because it depleted the users chakra. Think of it like Rock Lee's gate openings.

[XanBcoo]

Take it to PMs you two.

@XanBcoo
we never know?
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I think u just answered yourself there. wouldn't u like to know who u dealing with when your fighting someone? wut u close your eye and say; hell so wut if he has transformed into a girl I'll beat him anyway. I'm sure this would help him fight better cause he has some-what knowledge of this transformation.

I don't see how Neji knowing that Sasuke becomes more powerful with the curse seal is that much of an advantage. Yes, it lets him know what he's up against, but not much else really. Actually, Neji knows less about the curse seals than the rest of the Genin since he never actually saw Kidomaru transformed until he delivered the last blow. Perhaps he would know to adopt a defensive situation, but he might have done that anyway. Like you say, we'll never know exactly how the two's techniques will fare against eachother, but we can use clues from the various times we have seen each of them fight to make a good guess at the outcome.

and the all mighty three dotted sharingan and the the weak byakugan. we have no clue of wut will be the result when these two collide, since it has never been happened before. it's been said, and we saw that 3 doted sharingan can predict the next move, and it has also been said and we saw that byakugan can see the chakra movements.since one need chakra to move any part of the body (in naruto world) wouldn't u think that neji could react much faster to sasuke's incoming attacks then the 3 dotted sharingan? or cancel each other out? now don't give me bull and try to come up with something good.

I bolded the part where you made a mistake. One does not need chakra to perform physical actions in Naruto. Chakra is actually made by combining physical energy with mental energy (see episode 10 or 11, when Sakura explains this). Neji fights specifically using his chakra, which I assert that Sasuke would be able to see and react to using the Sharingan (FFS remember! He's fast enough to counter attack Kyuubi-Naruto!). We know the Sharingan can copy physical movements and also see/predict chakra flow. Setting this up against Neji's ability to see the tenketsu and Chakra circulatory system, I still see an advantage for Sasuke. You could argue that Sasuke is using the curse seal to enhance his abilities, and therefore using chakra visible to Neji. But really, he wouldn't be able to do much else than notice that there's a whole lot more of it. There is a difference in the two abilities.

[Assertn]

People are still talking here? I'm confused....is there anything that hasn't already been mentioned the first 10 pages?