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    WUUUUtTTTT check this out??/....[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

    Xbox 360 Slightly More Powerful Then PS3???

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    It sounds a little suspicious. He just says in some areas blablabla, so it could be anything. Like the PS3 has better graphics, sound or whatever. And the 360 weighs more or some shit like that. I'm not saying that it's total bullshit, maybe the 360 is "slightly more powerful" but that article wasn't all that convincing.

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    lol yea..

    And it is something microsoft said.. i don't think they'll say : ÿea ps3 is more powerfull then the 360. a bit objective.

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    Earlier, I said that Miyamoto spoke at some convention or press conference. For accuracy, Miyamoto spoke at the Digital Interactive Entertainment Conference in Kyoto, where a design manager (remind you of someone?) from Valve said that they're interested in making games other than first-person shooters (fuck). So far, all I know is that they're developing a cooperative building game where players can build machines online instead of shooting and killing each other. What the fuck? Are they serious? They really must be drunk on the Nintendo Kool-Aid. Miyamoto drugged them. Fuck. The only good thing about this is that it might be an RTS, but it's definitely going to be online, so could it be a genre-defining MMORTS? Everybody has been saying that the new Revolution controller will replace the mouse because it will be perfect for the FPS genre, but the RTS genre is also a heavily mouse-dependant and popular genre that could be easily catered to by the new controller. My guess is that because Miyamoto will have enough of a challenge marketing the new controller to the hardcore gamers who doubt its potential, he's going to want his surprise ace to be special, shiny software that showcases the innovation (and reasoning) behind the Revolution.
    Originally posted by: el_boss
    I'm guessing he's referring to Miyamoto's idea to make entire rooms involved in the games trough holograms or something like that.
    As much as that shit would be cool, to actually have your basement holographically transformed into a Zelda dungeon with puzzles, I highly doubt the technology is economically producable yet. I'm pretty sure that if Miyamoto is excited about it, then Nintendo probably has a rudimentary prototype (if that) of it in their research and development labs, of which Miyamoto is the director. So I don't think that's their hidden ace for the upcoming generation, but probably in another ten years.

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    I'm going to buy the nintendo revolution. The only console games I care for at this time are the mario and zelda adventure games, as well as ninja gaiden. But I won't be able to afford both systems, so I'll just get the revolution and wait till the x-box price drops. Hopefully, if any good rpgs or srpgs come out, they'll be on multiple platforms. By now I totally don't care about the ff series anymore, so, whatever.
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    So do those ports imply that PS3 will finally have integrated 4 player support?
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    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    So do those ports imply that PS3 will finally have integrated 4 player support?
    Those are USB-ports. PS3 has no controller-ports since it only has wireless controllers. I think one machine can handle 8 or 9 controllers.

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    I thought the ps3's controllers were all blueooth powered, those ports look like its for something else.

    EDIT: err yeah wat el_boss said.

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    That's sad; the Revolution vs. 360 looks like my old cable modem vs. a clunky first-generation DVD player. I have no idea how Microsoft intends to appeal to the Japanese market when they hated the Xbox for being too big ... and now 360 looks even bigger compared to Revolution which will obviously sell very well in Japan because they just eat that Mario shit up.

    I'll probably get the PS3 when its price drops down to $249.99 as opposed to $179.99 like I originally said, depending on how severely Sony stomps the shit out of 360 with superior quality in games. It can go without saying that MGS4 will be sweet, but Killzone 2 still has an impression on me and there's still hope that Square Enix will continue to exploit FFVII into a remake. Shit, if they remake FFVII, I won't give a shit if PS3 costs $500. I'll work more hours like Ken Kutaragi intended.

    For the record, PlayStation 3 will support seven controllers, wirelessly. But that really doesn't excite me as much as the two video output connections that PS3 will have. I really anticipate what Sony intends to do with that. Instead of dividing one television screen by half in Gran Turismo, you could hook up two televisions -- one for each player -- and that might actually interest me in GT4. Or they could emulate Nintendo's Dual Screen functionality and show character stats on one television and actual gameplay on the other. Or in RPGs, it could show you events that are occuring elsewhere in the world on one screen as a cause and effect mechanism depending on your actions in actual gameplay on the other screen. It's like DS without the handheld-orientation and touch screen technology. But then again, I read that EyeToy 2 will try to emulate the touch screen technology by not really letting you touch, but letting the camera recognize gamer movements, which really knocks out two birds with one stone because that'll directly compete with the Revolution controller too. Sounds sweet to me because it shows that Sony's gonna stomp the shit out of 360 performance-wise and try to hold its own against Nintendo innovation-wise.

    BTW, did anyone else get a Xbox just to mod it so that they can play SNES and Genesis games on it? HAHA, fuck Microsoft.

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    well this is something another guy posted on a diff fourms n stuff so il jus quote it XD

    G0$u /.\/0t3 : the first quote was from an actical and the second part was the guys post XD

    After receiving a huge promotion from the press, buyers of the Xbox 360 in N. America say that they have experienced some issues when playing specific games.

    Microsoft did not deny the promlems but said that they are "isolated".

    "We have received a few isolated reports of consoles not working as expected," Microsoft spokeswoman Molly O'Donnell.

    Enthusiast Web sites such as www.xbox-scene.com as well as Microsoft's own Xbox Web forum on Wednesday carried postings from Xbox 360 owners reporting that some systems had crashed during regular play as well as during online game play using the Xbox Live service.

    Problems included screens going black and the appearance of a variety of error messages. In addition, the console has been reported to crash, possibly due to overheating issues attributed to the console's hard drive.

    O'Donnell, who declined to say how many reports the company had received, said calls represent a "very, very small fraction" of units sold. The number of calls was not unexpected, she said.

    "With any launch of this magnitude, you're bound to see something happening," she said.

    O'Donnell said the best way to resolve the issues is to call 1-800-4MY-XBOX for trouble shooting. If that does not solve the problem, she said, Microsoft will repair or replace the unit.

    Despite the issues, Microsoft corporate vice president Peter Moore has given the first firm indications of the company's sales ambitions for the Xbox 360 over the coming year, which see ten million consoles being shipped by the end of 2006.

    Xbox 360 will follow up on its sell-out US launch with a European launch next Friday, December 2nd.

    Cost estimation of the Xbox 360

    In related news, a dissection of Microsoft's new Xbox 360 video-game console conducted by iSuppli indicates that IBM silicon is a key factor driving the cost and functionality of the product. But according to the iSupply analysis, Microsoft may 'losing money on Xbox 360'. The company's analysis of the cost of parts inside the game console resulted in an estimate of $525, far above the retail price.

    IBM designed and co-manufactures the custom microprocessor that powers the Xbox 360, according to iSuppli, adding that the microprocessor is a triple-core PowerPC that runs at a frequency of 3.2GHz. At a cost of US$106, this single part accounts for 20.2 percent of the total Bill-of-Materials (BOM) cost for the Xbox 360 Premium, according to preliminary findings from the research firm. The IBM chip and other integrated circuits in the Xbox 360 total an estimated $340 per console, said the firm.

    Other key semiconductors in the Xbox 360 include the Graphics Processing Unit, the memory and a southbridge I/O controller, noted iSuppli, adding that the GPU, designed by ATI Technologies to provide groundbreaking High-Definition (HD) graphics, costs an estimated $141, including embedded DRAM from NEC.

    Factoring in costs for the hard disk, the DVD drive, enclosures, the Radio Frequency (RF) receiver board, power supply, wireless controller, cables, literature, and packaging - the total BOM cost for the Xbox 360 Premium reaches $525, well above the retail price of $399, according to the research firm.

    If the teardowns are correct, it's clearly not what the world's largest software maker had intended for the Xbox 360.

    "We're making money, not much money but we are making money," said Yoshihiro Maruyama, executive officer and general manager of the Xbox division of Microsoft Co. Ltd., Microsoft's Japan division, in an interview with IDG News Service in September this year.

    "It will get cheaper over time. As we produce more the price will go down," he added.

    sorry to dissapoint u xbox lovers but the 360 seems to be really bad...

    lots of 360s are crashing and evreyone who bought them are complaining
    And they have a problem with heat... lots of them are overheating... and they do not even have a fan in it

    ok if they Actually dont got a fan, that would seriously piss me off if i bought one lol, i mean with that much powa how couldn't they put a fan in -.- lol, even if they were rushing for x-mas how hard is it to put a fan in >< lol. Anyways id probally get the Revolution because im hoping for a g0$u zelda game, n prehaps a uber mario one XD. or ssb3!! lol, also the others jus look obvious or retarded lol. ( course this is in like a year or something when the price takes a x3 cut -.-" lol )


    G0$u 3])iT : also if this has been posted before my bad XD, couldn't find it newhere in this thread >: ) lol. also its just a fact that the lil guy is going to be the strongest.. -.- lol, least thats waht i hope for when watchin shows or playin games.... or something.... -.-" lol, i mean look at him in that picture.. hes like so gosu, hes hiding behind the playstation cause he knows the x-box is gonna tip over ne time and he has his blue lil lazer thingy ready to shoot if x-box cruses the playstation.... <--- ( ....im bored n i felt like typing something... -.- lol )

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    Originally posted by: KoKo37
    G0$u 3])iT : also if this has been posted before my bad XD, couldn't find it newhere in this thread >: ) lol. also its just a fact that the lil guy is going to be the strongest.. -.- lol, least thats waht i hope for when watchin shows or playin games.... or something.... -.-" lol, i mean look at him in that picture.. hes like so gosu, hes hiding behind the playstation cause he knows the x-box is gonna tip over ne time and he has his blue lil lazer thingy ready to shoot if x-box cruses the playstation.... <--- ( ....im bored n i felt like typing something... -.- lol )
    Are you on crack? Nintendo can leave people overjoyed like that. I know Miyamoto drugged you too; that devious little bastard.

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    Originally posted by: milfhunter
    Originally posted by: KoKo37
    G0$u 3])iT : also if this has been posted before my bad XD, couldn't find it newhere in this thread >: ) lol. also its just a fact that the lil guy is going to be the strongest.. -.- lol, least thats waht i hope for when watchin shows or playin games.... or something.... -.-" lol, i mean look at him in that picture.. hes like so gosu, hes hiding behind the playstation cause he knows the x-box is gonna tip over ne time and he has his blue lil lazer thingy ready to shoot if x-box cruses the playstation.... <--- ( ....im bored n i felt like typing something... -.- lol )
    Are you on crack? Nintendo can leave people overjoyed like that. I know Miyamoto drugged you too; that devious little bastard.
    no.. it cleary stated there were "No Drugs" in the soft drink that came with my shipped gamecube -.-t lol, neways i just hadda post waht everyone was thinking!... o.O lol. and if ne one doesn't know i think Miyamoto is the emporerer ( creator -.- ) of nintendo lol, neways lets not make this thread go to off topic XD lol

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    Supposedly Microsoft stated that they lose $75 per console, not the $150ish that iSupply is claiming. In any case, all it takes is a few game/accessory purchases to offset that, but I still find it hard to believe that Sony could release something more powerful unless they're prepared to take an even bigger hit.

    Originally posted by: milfhunter
    BTW, did anyone else get a Xbox just to mod it so that they can play SNES and Genesis games on it? HAHA, fuck Microsoft.
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    Also for watching Anime on my TV too.
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    man, these consoles are going to be extreme. However, this time I dont think theyll completely eliminate the gamecube, ps2, and xbox.

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    Meh, I wouldn't say the 360 is that bad-looking, to be honest I have to say they are all rather equal in my eyes overall as the blockiness of the Revolution turns me off a little, while the ugly controllers of the PS3 make me dislike it a bit, and the 360 still is a bit big though definitely an improvement over the original Xbox. Oh, and no offense meant milfhunter, but good luck on finding a PS3 at $249.99 after a few years even if they do well.

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    Originally posted by: Mite Gai
    Meh, I wouldn't say the 360 is that bad-looking, to be honest I have to say they are all rather equal in my eyes overall as the blockiness of the Revolution turns me off a little, while the ugly controllers of the PS3 make me dislike it a bit, and the 360 still is a bit big though definitely an improvement over the original Xbox. Oh, and no offense meant milfhunter, but good luck on finding a PS3 at $249.99 after a few years even if they do well.
    no it will go down to that price in a few years for sure, Every game systems usally goes 1/4 price in a couple years since it came out, however since the new genertation of systems cost this much to make they'll probally only go for around 200-250$ stead of 99-150$ in the future T.T lol.

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    It looks like a boomerang

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    lols, i cant really judge it less i see it in person although it looks like my thumb wouldn't even be able to reach the joystick -.- lol. and yah it does look like a boomerrang lol

    Ub3r 3])iT : also anyone got any screenies of the 360 or revolution controllers? im to lazy to search for them on google.. -.- lol

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    Originally posted by: Terracosmo
    It looks like a boomerang
    The revolution controller looks like a remote control and the 360 controller looks like a shoe.

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    ok i just shot the lazy bug on me and went on google to find pics of them... well this is what i thought when i saw the revolution controller..

    WTF!?!?!? lol



    HOW THE HECK ARE YOU SUPPOSE TO PLAY THAT? lol i mean you would have to move your right hand *CONSTANTLY*.... i swear that better be a joke picture... -.- lol



    360 controller... hey this one is kinda cool lol



    wait.. wtf? i found another pic of 360 controller... WHICH ONE IS REAL OMG.. lol




    ok im going to be pissed if its actually the 2nd one.. lol, also wtf are they thinking with the revolution controller... i mean are they like retarded? lol, though its probally just a gag XD.... ( praying ) lol


    G0$u 3])iT : well if there waht im hoping they arent lol a different company could always make a decent controller for the systems XD lol

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