The Bitching Thread

[Xelbair]

I have two things to bitch about, first one is about unimaginable thing that had happened in my country, the other one is related to car.

1) Imagine this - football(the football, not the handegg, you Americans!) fans were showing signs with anti-goverment slogans(targeted against the PM and the president) on the matches. Guess what was the media and government reactions.
Government forced the football clubs, which fans were showing those slogans, to close the stations for everyone - those clubs now have to play without anyone watching them. It is so stupid and surreal that i don't know what i was supposed to do - laugh or cry at their stupidity.
Media ,on the other hand, didn't show that anyone had displayed slogans, but they quickly found small groups of pseudo-fans and did a lot of reports showing that the fans are all a dangerous, social degenerated group(which is not true). they basically put up a nice smokescreen to obscure the news of government closing stations, and they channeled people's hatred against football fans. It was done by every media available over here - except few, very small ones. If someone tells me to believe in free media, I'll just laugh.

2) i've been changing tires(to be exact, whole wheels) from winter ones to summer ones, and the goddamn mechanic's helper broke one of anti-theft screws. so instead of 20minutes max, it took over two hours.

[Buffalobiian]

I have two things to bitch about, first one is about unimaginable thing that had happened in my country, the other one is related to car.

1) Imagine this - football(the football, not the handegg, you Americans!) fans were showing signs with anti-goverment slogans(targeted against the PM and the president) on the matches. Guess what was the media and government reactions.
Government forced the football clubs, which fans were showing those slogans, to close the stations for everyone - those clubs now have to play without anyone watching them. It is so stupid and surreal that i don't know what i was supposed to do - laugh or cry at their stupidity.
Media ,on the other hand, didn't show that anyone had displayed slogans, but they quickly found small groups of pseudo-fans and did a lot of reports showing that the fans are all a dangerous, social degenerated group(which is not true). they basically put up a nice smokescreen to obscure the news of government closing stations, and they channeled people's hatred against football fans. It was done by every media available over here - except few, very small ones. If someone tells me to believe in free media, I'll just laugh.

I think it depends on the laws in your country. Mass demonstrations here require prior approval, as does election campaigns and advertisements on television by parties who are trying to "slander" the other.

If those people are trying to use a loophole and use televised sporting events to demote certain political parties (if this is against the law), then I can't really blame your government for shutting the whole thing down in response.

[XanBcoo]

I think it depends on the laws in your country. Mass demonstrations here require prior approval, as does election campaigns and advertisements on television by parties who are trying to "slander" the other.

If those people are trying to use a loophole and use televised sporting events to demote certain political parties (if this is against the law), then I can't really blame your government for shutting the whole thing down in response.

You don't really mean this, do you?

[Buffalobiian]

You don't really mean this, do you?

It hinges on the bold part.

If those people are trying to use a loophole and use televised sporting events to demote certain political parties (if this is against the law), then I can't really blame your government for shutting the whole thing down in response.

[XanBcoo]

What I meant was, it should never be against the law. And if it is, the government should not get a pardon for exercising such strict control over the media.