The Bitching Thread

[Buffalobiian]

I would think that it comes hand in hand with empowering females (or anybody, really).

I've been accused of misogyny on here at least twice, but this might be the most sexist thing I've read on gotwoot.

Hah! There was a good chance it'd be interpreted that way so I even put an extra bit in brackets.

Females are starting to suck at cleaning and cooking because they do not do it as much anymore, and it is not expected of them. It is nothing about the differences between the sexes, but simply practice makes perfect. If you do not do it, you do not get better at it and it does not become a habit.

Shinta nails it there. It's not about whether females should be better cleaners etc (In my opinion, that sort of thought brings about sexism). It's just that making housework a lesser part of their lives (with the lowered expectation and perhaps childhood training.. but expectation more than anything else)

I agree with you though, Bill's statement was quite sexist though I would use the word foolish. I think he was just giving us a bit of insight into his character. He seems to think empowering someone would make them less cognizant of the little things in life and less inclined to do things that he believes they would deem insignificant or unimportant. Very Freudian.

Exactly. It doesn't matter if women can't clean these days because there is so much more to their lives other than "I'm a woman, my only worth is how well I clean the house, how well I cook my meals, and how well I raise my kids." It's much easier to manifest your laziness in that regard when it's no longer highly expected of you, and no longer a major part of your self worth.

Upbringing goes a long way. The same could be said about beating kids. You see some oldies talk about how they used to beat their kids and they were more disciplined. I think that has some truth in it that kids at least acted more disciplined. You'd cop a backhand to the face if you talked back. That statement isn't an argument to bring back corporal punishment. It's an observation that this is the result from respecting equal human rights. When you give people rights they do things with it - which you may or may not like.

I don't think it necessarily changes what the kid is inside (they could still grow up to be assholes), but they also expected that if they acted like assholes someone's gonna get hurt.

Not for my part. I just expect a roommate to do the basics like cleaning the dishes they use, taking out the trash on occasion, picking up their dogs' shit in the backyard (without having to be told to), and maybe vacuuming once in a while. I don't expect a housewife, just a decent roommate.

I thought that leaving raw chicken/used-knife on the bench for 10 days was a bit too much. >_>