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    New techinique for Naruto which can surpass Kakashi?? What the freak.... if Kakashi can do the technique, wouldn't it mean that the techinque + his experience + WIDE range of jutsus is still greater than Naruto's lack of jutsus and experience? I'm not convinced that Naruto will surpass Kakashi (at the moment, at least), but if Kakashi says so, then it might be (painfully) true.
    I also wish that Naruto and Sakura would give up the chase on Sasuke. It's practically over and Sasuke is hell-bent on not changing his motives.
    Only good part in this chapter was Kakashi reading the book while talking with the gang. Haha, he's having a serious conversation, yet reading that silly book

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    Maybe Hinata will be willing to sacrifice an eye... and kakashi might give his eye as well, giving naruto a byakugan and a sharingan! and he would be able to adapt it easily because of his healing power!


    but on a serious note, the yondaime's technique looks like the most probable one...

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    naruto is really an uchiha!!!

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    its most likely gonna be some major training that includes the 4th's technique and something that has to do with naruto's infinite chakra, since kakashi even said that only naruto can do this training. I also believe that what ever kakashi is gonna show him he cant use for some reason like maybe he doesnt have the chakra to use it other wise naruto cant surpass him if he could use it that just defise all logic. We still havent seen the forbiden jutsu jiraya tought naruto so dont count that move out yet cause we have no idea what it is (nothing to do with what kakashi gonna teach him just in general).

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    Transplantation of eyes is totally out of the question. The sharingan stuff is 'Sasuke territory' just like the daemon fox is 'Naruto territory'. It's not coincidence, that we see Kakashi fewer since Sasuke has the eye fully.

    We won't see "that jutsu" either, because we will see it when we see Sasukes counterpart, the thing he did when Sai came to the hiding place.

    I somewhat doubt it's the yellow flash, because it's a speed thing, and I totally do not associate Naruto with speed. Also, it only gets him his ass kicked faster. I'd somewhat go with a special version of Chidori that Kakashi developed long ago but couldn't use because he doesn't have enough chakra. But chidori requires speed and good eyes.

    So, actually, they might simply send him back to school and give him a proper education. Naruto with a few more basic jutsus, a cool mind and some moderately advanced tactics is indeed quite a force already. Or rather, would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elessar
    Transplantation of eyes is totally out of the question. The sharingan stuff is 'Sasuke territory' just like the daemon fox is 'Naruto territory'. It's not coincidence, that we see Kakashi fewer since Sasuke has the eye fully.

    We won't see "that jutsu" either, because we will see it when we see Sasukes counterpart, the thing he did when Sai came to the hiding place.

    I somewhat doubt it's the yellow flash, because it's a speed thing, and I totally do not associate Naruto with speed. Also, it only gets him his ass kicked faster. I'd somewhat go with a special version of Chidori that Kakashi developed long ago but couldn't use because he doesn't have enough chakra. But chidori requires speed and good eyes.

    So, actually, they might simply send him back to school and give him a proper education. Naruto with a few more basic jutsus, a cool mind and some moderately advanced tactics is indeed quite a force already. Or rather, would be.
    i would truly doubt it would be a more powerful chidori because why would that make him more powerful then kakashi that wont really make a diffrence and rasengan is more then capable of taken people out. How would naruto going back to school help and it isnt something only naruto can do lol. It most likely has something to do with a large amount of chakra if anything.

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    What Naruto can do after school and behaving like a sane person sure is something only he can do.

    Giving him another ultimate move won't cut the slack. He is too dumb to fight. Battle tactics is the one discipline where Naruto lacks compared to Kakashi like in no other. Therefor, it is the one where he can gain the most in the fewest time. We do not know if the outcome of the training can only be done be Naruto. It can also be that the training itself, the schedule, can only be done by someone with Narutos stamina and self-healing.

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    To me, it doesn't matter how strong Naruto becomes. Its going to suck if he is still a bumbling idiot with the personality of a 5 year old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kooshi
    New techinique for Naruto which can surpass Kakashi?? What the freak.... if Kakashi can do the technique, wouldn't it mean that the techinque + his experience + WIDE range of jutsus is still greater than Naruto's lack of jutsus and experience?
    which is probably why its gonna be a technique that kakashi can't do, atleast not fully (like the rasengan). so ya, the odds are high that its another of the 4ths technique.

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    Obviously it's something to do with using the Kyuubi, seeing it's something that ONLY Naruto can do...
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    well kagebunshin is another thing only naruto can do since sakura & sai cannot do it (as injun pointed out).

    i've pretty much accepted the fact that in those 2.5 years w/ jiraiya, "all" jiraiya taught naruto was to reach the 3rd and 4 tails, and "that jutsu". that's it. it took naruto roughly 1 year to get to the 2nd tail. so, to reach the 3rd and 4th tails does not seem like "it's not enough" for 2.5 years worth of training.

    i do not believe "that jutsu" is the fourth's flash technique because moving great distances at high speeds is not highly dangerous/risky (at least when the fourth used it) the way jiraiya builds it up to be.

    following what assertn said about the teacher teaching the student only what the teacher can already do, it's hard for me to believe that kakashi knows the yellow flash technique. i do not believe it is a bloodline limit technique, which i guess means kakashi could have copied it in his time spent w/ the fourth. but i really dont think he did based simply on how grandiose a jutsu it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chet_chetty
    well kagebunshin is another thing only naruto can do since sakura & sai cannot do it (as injun pointed out).

    i've pretty much accepted the fact that in those 2.5 years w/ jiraiya, "all" jiraiya taught naruto was to reach the 3rd and 4 tails, and "that jutsu". .
    Kakashi said that ONLY naruto could do that training, not only naruto among his teammates.

    That is not a fact. It is only your assumption. Naruto didnt 'learn' growing those tails, it just escalates the more he is consumed by the kyuubi as he uses its chakra.
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    This is completely my invention but I think that the number of tails is related to what Naruto is able of. In the begining it was stated by Jiraya, if I correctly recall, that Naruto couldnt take out much of the kyubii chakra because he was "a too small container". I understand that in the way that naruto wasnt able to gather much chakra or release it.

    As time went by he gained more stamina, more chakra and more control over it letting him release higher amounts of kyubii chakra.

    In the begining against Haku: a huge amount of chakra but no tails (and that was the time that naruto has been most pissed imo).

    In the middle: Against Neji he released the chakra in the same way. And against Gara too but here he was releasing way more chakra than in previus fights.

    Then against Sasuke he released one tail and lots more of chakra.

    Now he is able of releasing 4 tails (but only 3 effectively).

    So the stronger he is the more tails he is able to release. Consecuently more tails-> less control over it.Tthus more chances to go into berserk.

    After all this nonsense I have to say that I would be very dissapointed if after hearing the speech from Yamato about Naruto using his own strength and not relying completely to kyubii fast power boost he just gets a technique from Kakashi to use it even more.

    This is the similarity and difference between Naruto and Sasuke both have a cheap way of becoming strong but Naruto has shown that he doesnt take shortcuts. Because "the arent shortcuts to become Hokage".

    I hope they let kyubii rest for a bit, even if they use his chakra I dont want any more tails!!
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    What kakashi is talking about is definitely related to kyuubi, and it is going to be a shortcut as explicitly mentioned by kakashi. BUT, i dont think he is going to completely rely on the kyuubi in battle, but rather just use it in the new training and maybe as a support in battle like before.

    Naruto does indeed take shortcuts. The very fact that the kyuubi is inside of him is already a shortcut, enabling him to do things that he otherwise wouldnt have been able to do. (like beat neji, gaara, and fight evenly with sasuke) The differences is, he doesnt use it in a cheap way, because he doesnt sell his principles just to obtain power like sasuke did. (wait, sasuke didnt have principles in the first place, oh well)

    Yamatos speech wasnt about not using the kyuubi ever, but rather not using it in the way he did. Naruto depended on the kyuubi completely, to the point of losing consciousness and hurting sakura. That is what Yamato is trying to avoid. If kyuubi only had good points without any dangers, I bet yamato would be the first person to make naruto use the kyuubi to its full extent.

    I really doubt theres gonna be any more tails, because that will completely defeat the purpose of the last arc and narutos resolve to not use the kyuubi in battle anymore.
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    i was thinkin similiar to someone in thinking that maybe kakashi will give up his sharingan to naruto ...he definitely has the stamina for it....yep first post but been readin everyones for years

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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    Kakashi said that ONLY naruto could do that training, not only naruto among his teammates.

    That is not a fact. It is only your assumption. Naruto didnt 'learn' growing those tails, it just escalates the more he is consumed by the kyuubi as he uses its chakra.

    well we'll never know exactly how naruto got the 3rd and 4th tails. he got the 1st and 2nd in battle in confrontation w/ ppl he felt close to. he gets consumed by such chakra from the extent of emotion he feels in that moment.i'm not sure what kinda of anger unmanagement training jiraiya would have shown naruto in their 2 1/2 yrs away from everyone close to them for that much more chakra to consume him and get to the 3rd and 4th tails.


    and yes i do realize it is not fact and my assumption that kakashi meant only naruto out of his teammates could do this special training. but it makes the most sense because the other 2 teammates make up the team, and Kakashi is training only this team.

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    Lightbulb Teaching the Fourth's Technique to Naruto

    Kakashi did have the Sharingan when he the fourth was alive. So he may have had an oppurtunity to copy it. He may not have been able to use it, but he may have copied it enough to be able to teach to Naruto. Kinda like Sasuke being able to see Lee's fast moves but not being able to copy them because he had to be faster and more developed in order to use them. So I think that it could be possible for Kakashi to know some techniques but not be able to use them due to limited chakra or not enough experience to use it.


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