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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari
    Kakashi said that ONLY naruto could do that training, not only naruto among his teammates.

    That is not a fact. It is only your assumption. Naruto didnt 'learn' growing those tails, it just escalates the more he is consumed by the kyuubi as he uses its chakra.

    well we'll never know exactly how naruto got the 3rd and 4th tails. he got the 1st and 2nd in battle in confrontation w/ ppl he felt close to. he gets consumed by such chakra from the extent of emotion he feels in that moment.i'm not sure what kinda of anger unmanagement training jiraiya would have shown naruto in their 2 1/2 yrs away from everyone close to them for that much more chakra to consume him and get to the 3rd and 4th tails.


    and yes i do realize it is not fact and my assumption that kakashi meant only naruto out of his teammates could do this special training. but it makes the most sense because the other 2 teammates make up the team, and Kakashi is training only this team.

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    Lightbulb Teaching the Fourth's Technique to Naruto

    Kakashi did have the Sharingan when he the fourth was alive. So he may have had an oppurtunity to copy it. He may not have been able to use it, but he may have copied it enough to be able to teach to Naruto. Kinda like Sasuke being able to see Lee's fast moves but not being able to copy them because he had to be faster and more developed in order to use them. So I think that it could be possible for Kakashi to know some techniques but not be able to use them due to limited chakra or not enough experience to use it.


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    Or the most obvious reason: the sharingan was a gift from Kakashi's best friend at his death. He won't give it up.

    I think some are over evaluating. Kakashi just said Naruto might surpass. I think it was encouragement for Naruto and a hint to the degree of difficulty of the training Naruto will endure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iMUSTbeTHEdevil
    Kakashi did have the Sharingan when he the fourth was alive. So he may have had an oppurtunity to copy it. He may not have been able to use it, but he may have copied it enough to be able to teach to Naruto. Kinda like Sasuke being able to see Lee's fast moves but not being able to copy them because he had to be faster and more developed in order to use them. So I think that it could be possible for Kakashi to know some techniques but not be able to use them due to limited chakra or not enough experience to use it.


    kakashi didn't have the sharingan when the fourth used his technique. if he did learned it, he ever used it? i highly doubt that kakashi copied the fourth's technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotary7eaven
    kakashi didn't have the sharingan when the fourth used his technique. if he did learned it, he ever used it? i highly doubt that kakashi copied the fourth's technique.
    just cause it wasn't in the gaiden doesn't mean he couldn't have copied it afterwards. after all, the fourth wasn't even the hokage yet

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    I like to anticipate things from a writer's perspective. Would kishimoto allow his main character to alter himself to have a sharingan? Would he allow his main jounin to alter himself (in a way that the audience hadn't become comfortable with) to support this plot change?

    It would be too drastic of a shift in the natural characterstics of major characters to give naruto a sharingan. It would be hideous, and it would have a strong response both positively and negatively.
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    I highly doubt that this technique will be taught to Naruto due to the fact Kakashi never used it during the entire manga/anime series. Not to mention Sasuke's Sharingan would know what would have happened (Why didn't Kakashi teach Sasuke this technique?). The possibilities are quite few, but I'm only going to guess 2 of them. Kakashi give Naruto his Sharingan and teaches him to control the kyuubi within Naruto. Reason behind this because Naruto has the stamina and chakra of the kyuubi. In order to use the Sharingan, you have to have a huge amount of stamina and chakra.

    eh...i dont know wtf i'm talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rotary7eaven
    Why didn't Kakashi teach Sasuke this technique?
    Kakashi: This is something only you can do, Naruto.

    Sasuke's sharingan won't be able to negate the yellow flash. It isn't just an illusion that can be broken down or taijutsu that can be anticipated. If you recall, the 4th was able to locate and instantly appear to aid kakashi when kakashi threw that special kunai. Just by merely triggering a seal, the user can instantly appear at that seal. That is the Yellow Flash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chet_chetty
    i'm not sure what kinda of anger unmanagement training jiraiya would have shown naruto in their 2 1/2 yrs away from everyone close to them for that much more chakra to consume him and get to the 3rd and 4th tails.


    and yes i do realize it is not fact and my assumption that kakashi meant only naruto out of his teammates could do this special training. but it makes the most sense because the other 2 teammates make up the team, and Kakashi is training only this team.
    I dont think Jiraiya intentionally made naruto angry just to bring out the 3rd and 4th tail. I doubt that was his intention at all. Like you mentioned, the other two tails were brought out with emotional fights, but they were also the fights where he was in a serious pinch and needed power. It just means that his training with jiraiya was that tough, where there were times where he almost died (well he was fighting sannin).

    What you said about kakashi teaching that team alone would make sense if he didnt mention how much growth is possible with that training. Kakashi said that naruto could surpass him, and that means a gigantic power jump. If anyone in the leaf who has kagebunshin can learn that technique, wouldnt it make sense for kakashi to teach it to all the jounins and give them a gigantic power boost? Why not do the training himself since he has the kagebunshin as well? If he did, then there is no way naruto can surpass him, and if he didnt he would just be plain stupid (which he isnt).

    EDIT: A lot of people think that hiraishin doesnt suit naruto because its a speed technique, but like assertn said, it really isnt. It is more like a teleportation jutsu, which creates a ton of possibilites, as well as ways to negate the sharingan. If naruto ever hopes to defeat that broken (overpowered) bloodline limit, he needs hiraishin or something to that effect. And like I said earlier, since it is teleportation, its already amazing to just imagine the possibilities when naruto combines it with his kagebunshin and tactics.

    Quote Originally Posted by mage
    it uses tons of chakra regardless if it's mangekyou or not. kakashi has gassed out several times due to overusing his sharingan.
    It does use a lot of chakra, but not insane amounts of it. It would hardly require someone to have infinite chakra to use it effectively, and that is my point. Mangekyou, though unbelievably powerful, can only be use a few times at a time because of chakra restrictions, so kyuubi would only be truly necessary (actually not even, look at itachi) in this case.
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    It's kinda nice that Kakshi is bothering to teach naruto at all since it shows that he respects him unlike before where he simply dropped naruto off with the glasses guy just so he could train his favorite pupil. I'm still pissed off that fricking kakashi is going to give naruto the stupid power boost that he couldn't get from the 2.5 years of training with A FRICKING SANNIN!

    I guess all naruto gained from that training was the really big rasengan, 4-th tail kyubi, and generally smarter use of the kage bushin (Since the time jump we haven't seen him do a blind taju kage bushin bum rush which is a good thing) right now i'm really thinking that "that jutsu" was probably the 4th tail but here's hoping that it turns out to be something else.

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    It is very unlikely that 'that jutsu' is the 4th tail. First off, its not even a jutsu. Secondly, the 4th tail isnt something he uses intentionally, so jiraiyas warning that naruto should not use it would fall on deaf ears. Lastly, that would just suck.

    I still believe that naruto learned something from jiraiya other than what he has shown so far, excluding the 'that jutsu'.
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