Naruto 191 Discussion

[Kraco]

It's just that one minute that kinda ruins everything. Deflect an orbital laser with my head band, badguy gets a little shoulder wound and gives up instantly...BAH!

Yeah. This was certainly the weakest part of the whole arc. Of course they perhaps tried to make this dude have a character like that: He obviously liked to use other people, liked to be in control, had one of those ultimate defence things that would allow him to never get hurt; that could mean he was not used to getting wounded. But still, he was jounin level, and apparently living the life of a wandering troublemaker, so you would think he would have had some more fighting experience.

It was peculiar this arc featured the best villains so far in the filler arcs, yet Naruto didn't use once his two most powerful skills: summoning and rasengan. In a sense it's good, as they are overused (well, rasengan especially), but on the other hand it could be nice to actually see rasengan used in a situation where it would really matter and make sense. If this last fight had lasted for one and a half episodes, it could have been built to that level.

Well, it looks like with the next episode we don't need to worry about little details...

[MFauli]

OMG, was that bad XD

Naruto is about to get killed, and right after he had the lucky idea of reflecting the laser with his headband.....all the other ninjas, especially Shizune, who is on Jounin level, show up....urghs.

[Kraco]

... especially Shizune, who is on Jounin level...

Is Shizune a jounin level ninja? Well, she could be, I have no idea, but she doesn't really give that kind of impression.

[MFauli]

Well, at least, Shizune is a "stronger" ninja than Naruto, so she could have helped a lot...

[Naruto_Fan]

this epi was soo bad. it was bad enough the arc was about the flower village and they used like flower element jutsu..

but on top of that, it ends with naruto doing something even lamer than his usual bunshin-ransengan/rendan combo...

make it even worse, it was one of the worst animated epi i've seen...like towards the end, chouji and hinata and the other ninja's all look like total crap. and another part, naruto hair just looks way too big. and i noticed how the headband constantly changed from really bad to worse and then to ok..

and they used that same song from when chouji defeated jiroubou using the 3 soldier's pill...too many times~

[DarthEnderX]

Is Shizune a jounin level ninja? Well, she could be, I have no idea, but she doesn't really give that kind of impression.

Yes, Shizune is a Jounin.

[Nai]

I don't know why, but this episode felt extremely awkward.

Perhaps it was because the princess suddenly changed from Hitler to Mother Theresa ( OMFG INSTANT CHARACTER REVERSIONS FTW! ) or perhaps because of the villain instantly giving up despite being the superior combatant in every way. Yeah, I'd buy the "he hates getting hurt" part if not for the fact that he a moment later yelled at Haruna to kill him off. That's not the behavior of someone who hates to see his own blood spilled. I think they just didn't know where to go with his character and simply tried making him as "evil" as possible so Naruto could preach his usual naive bullshit.

A disappointing finisher to one of the better filler arcs.

[RyougaZell]

Bad Episode.
Worst animation ever.
Bad Ending.

At least no Rasengan.

[ShinobiNiNaritai]

Here's a question, why was the "bad guy" asking Naruto to hand over the princess,
when he himself has said that Naruto is too low ranked to even comprehend his jutsu.
He should have just said, I am a freakin badass and I'm gonna tear you a new one, then
kill the damn princess and have your 3 friends for dessert. He shouldn't even bother asking Naruto at all
And as for Naruto and the princess, I can see how the first time they get caught under the lens they stay there, but com'on! after you have seen what happens don't just lie/stand there and close your eyes..MOVE!

How could the princess not have known that her Dad was dead, after all throughout this arc she has been saying "I'm the last, I have to live to restart/rejuvenate my dynasty.
And what would you call a winning move like that "Boomerang Deflect self-attacking jutsu"? Man what a let-down simple winning move. Granted it did show some thought on his part...but still kinda anti-climatic. He is lucky he didn't mis-time it, he could have burned a hole in his head
Yeah and Shizune just showing up like that was kinda nice, but the villian just gave up to easily. I could also buy into the " I have never been touched before and can't believe I am hurt therefore I give up" but he and his brothers had such awesome techniques, I guess they just wanted to wrap things up. Maybe they had given themselves a headache by coming up with a such a good arc in comparison to the others that they just wanted to end it.

Oh GOD and that damn wailing, it had me cringing in my seat. The animation at the end was horrible but the reactions at the end with Chouji just munching away while Hinata was holding her breath...Priceless.
So after saying all that I will say that I did like this arc :-) This last episode was just okay cos of everything I mentioned above. The best part was the villain's jutsu.

[masamuneehs]

fucking lame way to end an otherwise acceptable filler arc... fucking ruin something every damn filler

[Monomate]

Yes, Shizune is a Jounin.

No, i think she's a chuuin, because back in the Sasuke chase arc, in the part where there was a group of 4 ninjas ( including Shizure ), they noticed some noise and two of then went check things out, and ordered Shizure and the other ninja to stay behind. They acted in a way as if they were the strongest ninjas in the group ( Jounins ), and Shizure ans the other one were the weekest ( chuunins ).
Another thing I noted in the Raijin Fuujin arc, in one point Shizure and other ninjas faced the two baka brothers, and were easily defeated. If Shizure was in fact a Jounin, she shouldn't have been so humilated in this fight ( although I think that even as a Chuunin, she could just have used her poison needles to easyly defeat then, ).
Note that the Chuuin uniform end the Jounin uniform are pratically the same, so, just looking at Shizure's clothes isn't enought to decide she's a Jounin.

[mage]

Shizune is a jounin.

And please don't mention Raijin and Fuujin ever again.

[BioAlien]

aww, it is already the end of this awsome filler arc, that guy technique were nice, using ice crystal as lens, but since it is"ice" why is it not mealting?

also.. the way he was defeated... just a simple "solar beam" and he is down for the count... he may have been strong and all with his technique but he is truly weak to actually fall to the ground and not being able to run/attack anymore from that small attack.. it just hit his arm damn it... its not like it hit his heart or something...

dunno if i misread something but... did she actually asked Naruto to stay in Nano country and "be with her forever" , Hinata looked sad during that scene , she almost lost her precious Naruto lol