This Kage Bunshins training method will only help him learn the new jutsu faster.
Like Jadguar I hope he gets a new jutsu. Not based on Rasengan, but a completely new one.
Check the little Hidan-Kakuzuu-Zetsu cartoon posted on www.leafninja.com
EDIT:
post 500, w00t.
Heh, someone predicted that the training would go this way two weeks ago, but everyone dismissed it because it sounded so dumb.
I have no real issue with the training its certainly better then using the sharingan for it in my eye's atleast it really shows why the jutsu would be forbidden in the first place. Also I'm not positive Sasuke has 2 elements he knows a lightning move but that can be based on training rather then a natural affinity and it wasn't stated he has 2 just that chidori is a lightning based jutsu.
Naruto being wind makes sense as thats what I imagine the 4th Hokage was as well considering his nickname as Konoha's flash(or something similar to that atleast).
Konoha's Golden Flash was the 4th's Nickname.
Him developing Rasengan would state his affinity to wind as well.
As someone mentioned this training method is certainly better than using the sharingan. A new jutsu would be awesome and not something made over the rasengan, but this is Naruto and he is as dumb or dumber than a brick.
I wonder how long it will be before the Akatsuki arrive, and then time for Naruto to save some people with his ultra-awesome-most-ultimate-no-jutsu.
EDIT to below:
Yeah, it reminded me so much of that, Kishimoto must've seen it, and is taking it to that extreme.
About the flash.
Last edited by kAi; Thu, 07-13-2006 at 11:57 AM.
1) These lines speak for themselves:Originally Posted by DDBen
"Naruto: So Sasuke's matched with both Fire and Lightning, then?
Kakashi: You , on the other hand, are a zero."
2) Also, it only took Sasuke a month to learn chidori.
I couldn't help but think of that flash animation that openly mocked how insanely long it takes to explain anything to Naruto.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
So, he's going to be doing jutsus they do at the hidden sand village? For example, that air blade thing the guy did.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
Very Interesting, but it doesn't really make sense, how is having 1000 people learning different aspects of something to be brought togeather (I'm assuming that's the plan) going to help if all 1000 are idiots of Naruto's calibur. I'm sure i'm reading too much into this, but it still doens't make sense.
EDIT: @elessar: Sasuke being lightning might also explain his early difficulty with Gokakyu, obviously you can learn any type of manipulatuon with enough practice though (The Third). And who knows maybe they'll bring in Temari or someone to teach him about air...lol unlikely.
Last edited by Yukimura; Thu, 07-13-2006 at 01:01 PM.
The third... well, as I said before, I'm still not convinced creating a fireball with your chakra is the same as converting your chakra into a fireball. Remember Saskuras chakra-traing at the beginning of the manga. Everyone has all 5 chakra types, mixes them and uses that energy to create something. You learn that at the academy. Converting the nature if your chakra itself from chakra into something else is a totally different matter. But yes, one very likely can learn jutsus that relate to ones affinity more easily.
This would explain Sasukes hardship with the great fireball, Narutos success with rasengan and even Kakashis inability for rasengan/yellow flash (wrong type!). And boosts the third, being able to learn high class element jutsus from elements of not his type.
To your problem with the bunshin training.... yes! Absolutely YES! This would work for Kakashi. Create 2 bunshins, try something out, feel the chakra flow. Cancel the bunshins, learn that A resulted in X and B resulted in Y. Conclude that a little bit of A helps B and if you then try C, you might get the outcome you desire. Create bunshins again and try that out. Naruto is too dumb to grasp logical conclusion like that
I suprised at myself, I actually enjoyed the ch. quite a bit. I sort've get what's going on with the "Kage Bushin I learn everything that person does).
I think all the Bushins + Naruto will be doing the same thing. And once they re-combine naruto will have the knowledge of what every Bushin did(like the rock/paper/scissor match). So if Naruto is smart enough, he'll be able to figure out how to make it work(like he did with Rasengan). But hopefully it'll be something completely different from what we've seen before.
R.I.P Captain America.
Pretty funny, so naruto's a wind element type. Wonder if he'll wind up fighting the little bald kid from that Nickelodeon anime. It still annoys me to no end that the two minutes he spent with kakashi is worth more then the 2.5 years of training with Jiraiya. At least now we have a justification for Sasuke's chidori powered lighting shield.
Hmm.. Kind of cool, but at the same time kind of lame because they could have introduced this whole 5 element crap at the beginning of Naruto instead of 300+ chapters later?
And yeah... This whole learning thing makes training with Jiraiya seem pretty pointless...
And yeah what mage said.. Kishi probably just made up this bullshit along the way.... it's getting really dumb if you ask me...
(In reply to assertn)
Yeah, it's just naruto not understanding. The clan has an affinity for fire chakra, therefor "the uchiha jutsus" are traditionally fire and every uchiha (including sasuke) learned them. After 200 chapters, we get the conclusion to Kakashis "you are of the same type as I am" line - Sasuke is chakra type lightning. The difference between "make a fireball with your chakra" and "make your chakra be a fireball".
So, manipulating your chakra into something else, with else being the element of your type, looks like it's the easiest manipulation possible. Transforming your chakra itself into lightning, you end up with chidori. Transforming your chakra itself into fire, I guess you end up like the human flame from fantastic 4. With wind.... err, flying?
On a sidenote, another nice thing: the anti-sasuke loophole Kishimoto opened himself. Naruto has at least twice the amount of chakra as Kakashi has, and it could become 100 times Kakashis chakra, if Yamato keeps the nine-tails in check. So, if you use your own strength and do not rely on the strength of others, your capabilities evolve (Orochimaru's seal anyone?). Meaning: (a) Naruto hurts his own development if he fights in kyuubi mode => we may have the chance to see a lot more not-kyuubi fights (b) at the end of the manga, when Sasuke and Naruto fight their final fight, if Naruto breaks Orochimarus seal, then Sasuke will be weakened considerably, because if he used it a lot, it will have hindered his own development.
Overall, nice storychapter. After the last random-killings chapters a big leap in the right direction.
[Edit]Thinking about it again, relying on an external source, one might even strengthen that external source instead of oneself. This (a) explains Kakashis "you won't get any stronger if you rely on this evil seal" and (b) why Narutos seal weakens and the kyuubi gets stronger - it's because Naruto fought as with kyuubi chakra all the time, so, while naruto held his own strength level, the kyuubi got stronger. So he will gain more control over the kyuubi again, if he trains his own chakra. Well trained and with a huge ass amount of chakra, I really can see naruto controlling the nine-tails. I might, one day, get to see a kyuubi-summoning after all
Last edited by Elessar; Thu, 07-13-2006 at 12:42 PM.
This was exactly what I thought of as I read this week's manga. How ironic as I confess to thinking it was a silly idea.
Anyway, on the chakra type, all of us should have expected Naruto to be a wind-type when he farted in Kiba's face.
"Our hearts are full of memories but not all of them reflect the truth. The heart isn't a recording device. Even important memories change with time. They warp or fade, leaving us with but a shadow of what we hoped to remember." 天の道を行き、全てを司る。これは僕の世界。
I sort've expected it when he learned Rasengan.
But this whole element type thing explains alot about the Hokage battle during the chuunin exam.
R.I.P Captain America.
i just got back into the manga, man did i come back at a good time. I can't believe how good 315 was. I didn't know about the elemental types, neat thing to know about. I'am suprised to see naruto's was wind though, and that sasuke had 2 types, and naruto had one. I'm really interested to see the new secret training technique in action. Also, didn't anyone else notice that Kakashi could make naruto stronger than he is in less than a week, lol. Anyway great chapter and can't wait to see what happens.
So exactly where do all you people read, that Sasuke has a natural affinity of the same amount (or it would be one again) to two types?
Naruto _asks_ if Sasuke has two, and that question _isn't_answered_at_all_. It is stated that in the Uchiha clan there were exceptionally many people with fire affinity and that Kakashi is lighning, therefor chidori. Sasuke being able to learn chidori and further developing it, means he is most likely lightning - _NOT_ fire. He learned fire jutsu, because they are an Uchiha trademark. He can, until proven otherwise, not transform his chakra into fire.
Sasuke had a lot of trouble learning Goukakyu in his flash back compared to Itachi. Whether that's because he isn't a fire type or Itachi is just much better than him is unknown, though. I'd say the evidence would suggest that he's a lightning type and not a fire type, but learned the Uchiha's traditional fire techniques.
"Naruto: So Sasuke's matched with both Fire and Lightning, then?
Kakashi: You , on the other hand, are a zero."
You can overanalyze all you want, but there IS such a thing as answering a question with a different, but relevant response. If you asked someone how old they are and they tell you they will be turning 21 next month...wouldn't that answer your question just the same?
Not only that, but kakashi says naruto is a zero, even though we know that he is capable of learning wind. This suggests that their use of the term affinity does not mean "what you are naturally attuned to", but rather "what you have trained your body to mold chakra into"
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