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    Quote Originally Posted by Meteros
    chidori is definitely a mix of both form and nature because in a previous chapter kakashi explained how it took sasuke a few weeks to learn the nature before he could start the form. kakashi also says that if chidori were just form, then there would be no point in him having invented it. the mix of form and nature is what makes it destructive, explaining why naruto's incomplete although powered up rasengan lost to sasuke's lvl 2 chidori at the end of part 1

    it didnt lose to it both stoped each other only diffrence is sasuke just punches naruto in the stomace to knock him out, and naruto just scratched his forehead protector.

    From the translations ive read it says nothing about kakashi or the 4th not being able to add there element to the rasengan becasue of incompatability. From how the translations sound like it just seems that rasengan is a high lvl jutsu that is extremely hard to add your nature to it.

    They even say it rare for shinobi to form and change the nature of there chakra at the same time, maybe its just harder with rasengan because of the perfect sphere form you must make with it to be effective.

    I have also read that the 4th created rasengan specifically for his element ( most likely wind) but since the rasengan is th highest form of chkra manipulation it was way more difficult.

    heres the link if you need the translation

    http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=8104.0
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    Perhaps, and in the first scanslation they had up, kakashi says "my lightning wont fuse with the rasengan"
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    for some reason, Kakashi blasting out a rasengan (wasn't it said that only Jiraya and the 4th could do it?) troubles me less than the time he blasted out a M.Sharingan, though I'm suprised that it was said the 4th spent 3 years mastering the Rasengan and he still couldn't take it to the next level.. heck, who am I to judge?

    by the way, do we know what was "That" Jutsu Jiraya was talking about?

    next, Akatsuki KUzan and what's his name are still fun, though the bounty idea is totally stupid (Logically speaking, who has enough cash to put out a contract like that?only villiages and rich lords should be able to do so, and why put money on a monk's head?). but all and all, I miss Zetsu.

    Lastly, Asume, we get the point already, he's gonna die,can we move on already?

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    Yay for Naruto suddenly being able to advance just because he's the main character, way to destroy hundreds of chapters of establishing him as a dumbass - now he's gonna surpass the 4th. Yay.

    Worst main character ever.

    Other than that, nothing much happened; I still like last week's chapter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terracosmo
    Yay for Naruto suddenly being able to advance just because he's the main character, way to destroy hundreds of chapters of establishing him as a dumbass - now he's gonna surpass the 4th. Yay.

    Worst main character ever.

    Other than that, nothing much happened; I still like last week's chapter.

    What did you think was gonna happen he was gonna stay weaker then everyone else forever? Goku was a dumbass in dragonballz yet he was the strongest against all odds. You gotta give naruto some props for never giving up also he gets stronger when he is working hard for something ex: saveing sakura against garra. Now he is doing it to get sasuke back.

    Thats the whole point behind his strength and the reason why jiraya trained him he wont give up, he will do anything to become hokage,and he has the will of konoha. Not to mention his training is going way faster then anyone else because of the clones. Ohhh ya and he has a freaking demon in him giving him almost infinite chakra.

    Sounds kinda familiar kinda like goku one of the most popular main characters in manga/anime ever lol( fighting for everyone else makeing him stronger everytime, considered a weakling as a kid ). so you cant really say he is the worst main character ever.

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    He's a pretty damn shitty character. It's always the same boring shit with him over and over. No complexity to him at all.

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    Well, not a bad chapter, you get to here some interesting things like Kakashi believing that he'll surpase Yondaime, also Shikamaru finding out about Asuma's smoking habits (2 packs a day, god damn that's crazy!), this just keeps leading on to Asuma's death.

    Why is that Kakuzo so wrapped in money, he's one of the strongest ninja's in the naruto world, why could he possibly need money for when he can just take what he wants, lol. Isn't he supposed to be the bad guy? pussy.

    Rasengan is basically a wind techinque already, but he'll probably figure out a way to throw it or something, otherwise all I see is it getting bigger. I can also see Naruto coming up with an ultimate defense later on, similar to Kaiten except without the spinning, just the wind spinning around him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxgreatone87
    What did you think was gonna happen he was gonna stay weaker then everyone else forever? Goku was a dumbass in dragonballz yet he was the strongest against all odds. You gotta give naruto some props for never giving up also he gets stronger when he is working hard for something ex: saveing sakura against garra. Now he is doing it to get sasuke back.
    Goku wasn't necessarily dumb; just incredibly naive. And when it came to combat, he always was a genius. Sure, the same can be said about Naruto when he occasionally pulls off some stunt, but when reading DBZ I never thought "shit, Goku is so dumb, how can he possibly win these fights?!", which is a recurring thought in Naruto.

    And don't get me wrong, I am not surprised in the least that Naruto is surpassing everyone, I just think it's boring.

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    I don't think I'd call Goku a genius in combat. A genius in training might be accurate, but I don't want to get too far off topic.

    What we're seeing is a transition that should have taken place over the course of the entire series taking place in a few chapters. Naruto should have shown a bit of improvement after every battle. He especially should have improved during that training with Jiraiya. Since he hasn't improved as much as he should have in all that time. Kishimoto is playing cath-up. It's a shame, but he does need to improve a lot for the plot to advance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    by the way, do we know what was "That" Jutsu Jiraya was talking about?
    nope, it hasn't been mentioned since jiraya brought it up. i think it has something to do with the kyuubi.

    next, Akatsuki KUzan and what's his name are still fun, though the bounty idea is totally stupid (Logically speaking, who has enough cash to put out a contract like that?only villiages and rich lords should be able to do so, and why put money on a monk's head?). but all and all, I miss Zetsu.
    whos to say a village didnt put a bounty on him? just because 2 villages are at peace now doesnt mean any past conflicts would be forgotten and konoha has been in 2 major conflicts that we know of. one with the hidden stone and one with hidden cloud. im sure those villages have reason enough to put bounties on konohas most powerful ninjas.

    Lastly, Asume, we get the point already, he's gonna die,can we move on already?
    i hope he doesnt i like his character.

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    Although this chapter didn't have the action everyone is dying for, I still found it entertaining. Heh, but only 1 more chapter before the super good stuff starts. I think this chapter gave more insight that Naruto is the 4th's son.

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