Forum Rules on Spoilers

[Honoko]

Here's another suggestion, albeit slightly ridiculous: have seperate threads for anime-only viewers and anime/manga viewers. That way, both sides can freely discuss and/or freely speculate what's going on during the series.

On a more serious note: for any other anime series besides Naruto, why not just have people start spoiler threads if they wish to discuss "what's already known." Like how movies or tv shows are noted in our general discussion section, we can have "Spoiler: (insert non-spoiling title of topic discussion here)." That way, we don't have to reorganize the entire site or add spoiler tags and people would automatically know that they are entering that particular thread at their own risk.

[Munsu]

Here's another suggestion, albeit slightly ridiculous: have seperate threads for anime-only viewers and anime/manga viewers. That way, both sides can freely discuss and/or freely speculate what's going on during the series.

And for what reason do we have the manga section? Feel free to discuss the anime counterpart in that section also if your discussion will involve spoilers. There's nothing stopping you.

On a more serious note: for any other anime series besides Naruto, why not just have people start spoiler threads if they wish to discuss "what's already known." Like how movies or tv shows are noted in our general discussion section, we can have "Spoiler: (insert non-spoiling title of topic discussion here)." That way, we don't have to reorganize the entire site or add spoiler tags and people would automatically know that they are entering that particular thread at their own risk.

No, this will discourage discussion of fansubs, and it will encourage the same shit to be discussed twice, which seems like a very bad situation to me. This is a forum to discuss fansubs, not to discuss RAWs or random spoiler information you found in the internet.
We don't like spoiler discussions period, and we sure don't like to encourage and facilitate it. “What’s already known” should be what you’ve seen in the fansubs, if you are impatient and went around to wikipedia and other sites to get yourself spoiled then good for you, but no need to drag everyone in the forums with you. And if what you know you got it from the manga, here’s a crazy idea, go and discuss it in the manga section.

[Assassin]

Not to mention that we have the naruto open discussion section precisely for that reason, as far as naruto is concerned. And our only other big anime, bleach isn't quite as popular as naruto hence theres no need for an bleach open discussion yet.

Like bud said, these forums are for fansubbed anime, not random info you mite find from other sources. And even then, we have open and manga discussions where you can spoil to your hearts content.

[samsonlonghair]

I'll go on the record saying that I'd like spoiler tags, or the ability to change text color to the color of the background like we could do two forum revisions ago.

[complich8]

It's possible to implement in vbulletin (in fact, there's already mods written to do just that). It wasn't possible to implement in a sane way in Fusetalk, which was why they went away.

I'm not philosophically opposed to spoiler tags. I see a lot of other potentially good uses for them -- like hiding giant layout-breaking images in the desktop thread, for example.

However, I am opposed to the idea of spoiler tag abuse -- if we were to install such a mod, I'd expect that discussion rules would mostly stay the same: manga spoilers still wouldn't belong in anime discussion threads, and vice-versa. I'd also expect that there wouldn't be large stretches of threads wrapped in spoiler tags. However, I'd personally be a more active poster in a couple of threads (series discussions for series that I'm not quite current on) if I knew that clicking on the discussion thread didn't necessarily assume that I'd already seen the latest speedsubber-release of the series.

Take, for example: utawarerumono. I'm watching yesy's version, and don't really approve of your-mom's approach to subbing in general (they're sort of ... spitesubbers), so I don't intend to watch theirs. Since I'm waiting for a relatively reputable group to release, and there's discussion of your-mom's episodes in that thread, I can't really participate meaningfully in the thread anymore. By the time yesy twitches again and releases another couple eps (or, I guess if Static does underground releases), most discussion will have already happened about your-mom's version, meaning it'll still be pointless to even try to participate in the thread anymore.

Spoiler tags make enforcement of spoiler rules a bit muddier, and make discussion moderation in general a bit tougher. But with some sane rules, they can help prevent that from happening by letting people watching the speedsubber versions of things stay in the discussion while not spoiling and giving a generally bad time to the non-speedsub-watchers, and I'm all for that.

So, really, I'm on the fence. I'm interested in seeing how much interest there is in this ... it's really not particularly hard to make happen, just a question of whether we want it or not.

[Munsu]

The only reason I was opposed to spoiler tags is because I don't want any sort of spoilers permitted in the Anime forums. Even if we make the policy as you explained above, I bet you that 100% of new members will not know of them and will see the spoiler tags as a means for them to discuss spoilers without knowing any better. The end result will be giving incentive for spoiler discussions and anime only watchers being spoiled.

The other problem about speed subbers, who here will decide which subs are ok to discuss and which aren't? There's really no logical way to go about it. I find myself in the same situation as you. I'd be more active if people would just stop watching and discussing speed subbers, but that isn't going to happen. So I just watch till the end of the series at my pace, and just post my comments on the series when I finish watching it.

[Assassin]

So I just watch till the end of the series at my pace, and just post my comments on the series when I finish watching it.

Ya, thats what i do as well. I dont really think there are alot of people in the same situation as comp, so theres no need for spoiler tags to be implemented.

All in all comp, stop trying to be different and just conform

Edit: lol bud, can of worms?