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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu
    I see absolutely no issue with Galatea joining the 7. Tabitha uses nearly exactly the same techniques in sensing her opponents, and she uses zero Yoki just like the other 7. In that same way, the only reason Galatea could be found at all was because Miata never uses Yoki, she instinctually finds her opponents. She functions and fights by sensing Yoki, but the only technique requiring her to use a little Yoki is the "nudge" she used against Duff. However, that usually only works on the lowest denominator (or in Duff's case, the dumbest) of Awakened Beings and regular Yoma. Agatha thwarted the ability fairly easily. Tabitha is good, but even she can't compare to the God Eye. Galatea would be welcomed into the 7, she just wouldn't be able to know that any of them are there
    Galatea has been suppressing her yoki for a long time because she's been hiding in Rabona, but she used some this fight - isn't that similar to Ilena's situation? She also got her body punctured and arm ripped off, so she'll need to use yoki to heal it if she hasn't already. Whoever is the Organization's regular "eye" should be able to find her.

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    As for Riful, she and Agatha are nowhere near the same structurally. Agatha was a body with demonic hair that she coiled and coiled into her little platform, and her quote-unquote, "true form." As this chapter illustrated, Agatha actually had a human-shapely...err...shaped body. Riful's true form is exactly what Agatha was pretending to be, all ribbons. I suspect from the attack of 3 and 5 (of Clarice/Miata's generation) revealed the total extent of Riful's body. "Riful" exists in all portions of her ribbon-like body, and you'd have to destroy it all at once to actually hurt her. She mentioned something towards that effect. If the two had followed-up, they might have wounded her a tiny bit.

    Something like Clare's Awakened form, under her total control, and slashing with her Flash Sword techniques, but using bladed arms long enough to compare to Riful in size would probably kill her.
    I was under the impression that the mass of ribbons that we see Riful as isn't her true form. The first time we see her, Alicia says she grasped the "outer layer," then makes an estimation based on that. Recently, she was still holding back against #3 and #5. Even so, I agree that it's possible that holding back her power might not necessarily mean a transformation in the way her body operates, but I felt that the author set up Agatha as a precedent for how Riful could be handled.

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    I see what you are referring to about the "outer layer," and that does support your point. But, if you want to play with Alicia's words, something else she says supports my hypothesis. She follows the statement you quoted with "I would be able to destroy 50% of her body before [being killed]." (I forget the exact wording of the end, but it is to that effect.)

    As for Galatea, The "Eyes" of the Organization can only see so far. If they are not close, say 10 miles judging from the first scenes we see Galatea, they wouldn't be able to sense her. If what we understand about the handlers of the Organization discussing Galatea's betrayal and the rise of the new "Eye," Galatea was one of the exceptions with her range. Tabitha has shown she can have the same level of detail, but the extreme range seemed to be a rarity even among the "eyes."

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    I thought the reason Clare and the others did not go over their limit was due to their mental strength. During the Fight in the North, they all used their Youki to the max and Clare and Deneve, even went past (Rather, to their new limit) their Youki limit. I don't think them surviving this long without awakening has to do with them not using their Youki. When Clare had to kill her friend at the beginning, that was due to her friend recklessly using her Youki, A.K.A going to her limits and maybe slightly over. As clare noticed, a great deal of mental strength can keep your conscious mind human as an awakened being, Jean being the example here. Clare pulling her back from her awaked form...

    The 2 soldiers recognized Clare right away, as did Galatea.

    I still think each time they approach their limit or go slightly past it then back to normal again. They are given a new limit and part of that power carries with them to their normal state. Maybe it's just Clare since she's 1/4 Teresa and 3/4 Human. I could be wrong here. :P

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    You're right, but why take chances? Clare didn't make it last time, and only Jean's final dying effort saved her. The Slashers still have no idea what has really happened, or how it works. They could fully Awaken at any time.

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