Ho... That's very interesting, Ryllharu. I read that wikiarticle, and the story was indeed rewritten in an innovative way to suit a mecha series. I guess Ralph suffered the most changes of the characters. In fact, without the similar names, I wonder if anybody would have even recognized this was (loosely) based on the old book.
In another forum I frequent, someone commented that Lottie and the others didn't seem to have aged much when they found her in what was supposed to be 15 years after Sara left the Libertad behind. It brought up an interesting question, and in my somewhat mediocre understanding of quantum physics and Relativity, I attempted to explain it. We know the series does pay attention to Relativistic Flight. Here's what I wrote:
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I'm amazed they found her at all. With Relativistic flight, not only could she come out anywhere, depending on how fast or slow she was going, she could reappear anytime.
Assuming that the Libertad was fixed in under a year after Sara and Ralph went to relativistic flight, that means that all the other graduates and crew would have the other 14 years to start looking for Sara. But they really wouldn't have any idea when she would come out. It probably wouldn't be too hard to know she wasn't on any inhabited planet, since we could assume she'd try for some form of communication with the military, which I'm under the assumption they can receive in flight at full speed, since that is theoretically possible.
I'm guessing they just followed her vague vector and created an expanding cone and checked each planet, under the assumption Sara and Ralph were traveling at a fairly constant speed.
If they kept ramping up and down to relativistic speeds, it would take them longer to travel than Sara (who aged only minutes), but not too much more, probably 2 or 3 years.
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Well, that was my explanation for it. If anyone wants to refute my understanding of quantum physics, I'd love to be enlightened. I wonder if I almost blew a blood vessel thinking this one over. That's my theory, I'd love anyone else's input.
15 years? Where does that number come from? Sara and Ralph's flight was so short I thought all the time they had landed on a planet in the same system! In fact, it never even occured to me there could have been any significant amount of relativistic time difference generated.
Even more so because those people arrived when Sara and Emily had apparently barely left the mecha behind. I believed they had fired their engines the very moment they got them back online, and followed Sara to the planet she had landed on. And if they really had left the system, I doubt they would have so conviniently found a planet with entangled mechas with little steering abilities (as was made apparent by their less than stylish landing).
Now, I have no idea about quantum physics, but if they were in sub-light speed for a minute or two, surely you can't already observe 15 years of difference?
Well, after all these more or less uneducated points, I reassured myself again there certainly was no 15 years there.
There's a Local vs. G.M.T. clock in her Strain. Thumbnails below.
Timestamp: 16:34
Timestamp: 20:34
The second image shows that 15 years have passed since Sara took Ralph away from the ship to finish him off. Earlier in the show, episode 11, they say that Ralph is actually still somewhere in Relativistic flight, and the Emily's transported him back to this time.
How much relative time passes depends entirely on how fast you go. 60% of lightspeed to the edge of our solar system and back is about 10 years if I'm not mistaken.
When did Ralph find the first Emily again? I thought it was around that time (at the end of the ep)...
and wow on the "little Princess" thing. I don't think it would have been possible to see the resemblance without the names. however, I think it adds to it and makes us appreciate more how the writers made this show. Might even get me to buy that book.
edit: its funny how they just scrambled all the last names... especially Carrisford and Dickon. I think this show is a candidate for a deeper look into why it was made like that.
Last edited by Darknodin; Sat, 02-24-2007 at 03:07 PM.
Umm last time I checked 7137 is 124 years after 7013, I don't feel like looking up the equations or anything, but damn... it must be tricky to coordinate an interstellar war if people are jumping forward in time so much. I remember they had a similar system in the later three Ender series books where transitioning to light speed was free, but you still couldn't go any faster so travel between planets meant you didn't age much but years and years would go by relatively while you were in transit.
Anyway, it was a good show, deaths everywhere, cool action, and interesting characters, though I wish Ralph could have come around somehow. I feel like Sara managed to get surpass where was emotionally at the beginning of the show, with the added bonus of her bond with Emily and her stronger bonds with her new friends (as they were forged in blood). Good for her, though I'm sure we'll miss our anti-social Sara I'm glad she turned out all right.
Oops, how'd I get into college again? Good eyes.Originally Posted by Yukimura
Its not as hard as you think. You only have to care about two things. 1) taking a static viewpoint, how long the ships will take to get from point A to B and 2) taking the ship's viewpoint, if it will take long enough for the crew to die of old age (which shouldn't be much of a factor most of the time). In the end, its just coordinating ships like usual, except that instead of taking two weeks to get to the battlefront, it takes 500 years.
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