Gays, population growth, the environment, clouds!

[Terracosmo]

DB_Hunter, 83 years old, last survivor on Earth: "Well I'm standing here on a cliff surrounded by water in the middle of what I think is the Atlantic Ocean. The entire world has been blown to smithereens by bombs, there isn't any food, not any drinkable water, no widescreen TV with bad adultery on them, no people, not anything. FUCKING GAY PEOPLE! YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL!"



This has been a joke "sort-of" from Terra entertainment stating the hilarity of being concerned about what gayness will bring to the end of the world when there are about 2914891284 issues that are more important - and also definitely more dangerous - when it comes to the planet's survival. Such as the long-awaited ban on canned shrimps. CANNED SHRIMPS WTF!! YOU CAN'T EAT THAT!



SEX!!!!1111


Also I updated my signature with a quote that DB uttered when I visited his home last night and attempted to change his abyssmal view on society (I think I succeeded)

[Lefty]

The way I look at it religion will always hate gay people, gay people will always hate religion, and I will sit on the side lines with a tub of popcorn and watch the insanity insue. Granted I will be switching to the middle east on occasion, it's a classic i can't miss.

[Yukimura]

On average I would guess that gay people don't hate religion as much as religious people might hate gays. This is mere arm chair philosophy but it seems reasonable that lots of gay people might still believe in God (since I don't know how non-monotheistic religions treat homosexuality at all please assume i'm only talking about followers of the three). Anyway, contrary to what many bible thumpers believe you can be a good and god fearing person and still be attracted to members of your own gender. However, my extremely religious friend put it rather eloquently on night while we were having one of our arguments.
He essentially said that even if homosexuality (defined as being sexually attracted to members of the oppisate sex) is a property of people and thus not something you can 'choose' you can still choose not to partake of sexual activity if it violates the rules of God. This hit me pretty hard because it made sense as a way to justify seeing it as a choice while still raging against it. If you don't want to have sex with a woman (that you're married to), then don't have sex at all. It's pretty much the same message as what most religious groups send at youth, sex outside the proper social norms is a no no and is wrong. Unfortunately people don't seem to have figured this out and whine and complain about homosexual activity as if it's somehow more of an afront than underage or premarital sex. If people don't want to be hypocrites about their beliefs then they should take both equally serious.

As for the environment, my gut instinct is less people is better in general so low birth rate is good, but I'd rather it was a global low birth rate than only in a certain area. Of all the cultures I prefer Western (aka American) culture the best pretty much just b/c I'm a part of it, and that's enough for me. I do see merits in most other cultures and plenty of things wrong with the one I live in, but all in all I don't think I'd want to live any other way (though some societies look like they might not be so bad to live in from birth, Oh Canada...).