I think you need to take a critical thinking course or something to learn the basics of logic. You're all over the place kAi. The whole wanting to fight him 10 years ago thing has no connection to when Orochimaru ran away.
Anyways, due to the reasons I've already said, it looks as though he ran away before the Kyuubi attacked.
jaysee, i think kai is right... the time Orochimaru ran away was also the time the third hokage has already known the secrets orochimaru has been doing, and that was 10 years ago. i remember the monkey king told the third hokage and blamed him for not killing orochimaru at that time. and then the attack on konoha by the kyubi happened 12 years ago, the time naruto was born, so its safe to say that the kyubi incident happened first before orochimaru ran away
Well, I just re-watched episodes 72-79. You guys are totally wrong. It's spelled out he left over 12 years ago when he kills the 3rd. He says right at the beginning of the fight, in AnimeOne's translation: "It has been ten and a few years since I left the village..." That means at least 12.
Not only that, Orochimaru knew nothing of the sealing technique.
Episode 69 clearly shows the Kanji marking of 4 on the 3rd casket. Plot hole I guess. Unless maybe the shinigami was in there w/o Orochimaru knowing since he CLEARLY left the village before the Kyuubi attack and he CLEARLY doesn't know how the 4th died.
Last edited by JaySee; Thu, 02-22-2007 at 01:59 AM.
okay.. im sorry JaySee.. i just read Oro's bio and timeline at leafninja and i found that it was 14 years since he left the village.. im sorry for the wrong conclusion
I have a question now after re-watching the 3rd's death. How the heck did 4th use this technique? Did he carry Naruto on his stomach so the shinigami's hand would go through him as well? How the hell did he stop the shinigami from taking Naruto's soul? Why the hell did he have to put it in Naruto instead of just let the shinigami eat it? HOW THE HECK DID HE SUBDUE THE KYUUBI IN THE FIRST PLACE TO DO THE TECHNIQUE?!?!
cuz he's the fourth.... and i remember them saying the kyuubi was much too powerful or large for the shinigami to completely take so they had to seal it in naruto or something like that.Originally Posted by JaySee
or perhaps i read it from somewhere.
These have all been brought up back when it first occurred in the Anime....it ended up being a lengthy discussion that ultimately led nowhere. You're better off waiting and seeing if Kishimoto ever elaborates more on the jutsu.
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off the top of my head: maybe the fourth just sealed the kyuubi inside him, which instead of killing him made him into a baby, whom the villagers called naruto... then years later, kishimoto makes a story arc where naruto ends up going back in time and becomes the 4th everyone knows of, realizing his dream of being hokage and thus creating a nice time-loop ending for the entire series... hahaha... please don't take this seriously...
off the top of my head: maybe the fourth just sealed the kyuubi inside him, which instead of killing him made him into a baby, whom the villagers called naruto... then years later, kishimoto makes a story arc where naruto ends up going back in time and becomes the 4th everyone knows of, realizing his dream of being hokage and thus creating a nice time-loop ending for the entire series... hahaha... please don't take this seriously...
Honestly this isn't that far fetched it would solve a lot of questions we have on their similarities of looks and all. But they would of prob told naruto and they prob wouldn't hate him cuss he is the yondaime..
14 years when? 14 years from the beginning of the series? 14 years since the final fight with Sarutobi? 14 years after the time skip?
Because at the start of the series the Kyuubi incident happened 12 years ago. At the fight with Sarutobi it was 13 years ago. And after the time skip it would've been 15 years ago, almost 16.
I do think Orochimaru left before the Kyuubi arrived, but I don't have the facts to back it up. And I think what Kai was bringing up is that the argument and logic you guy's been using are flawed to make the the assumed timeline factual.
That Orochimaru didn't recognize or know Naruto is irrelevant. He knew enough about him to screw with Naruto's kyuubi chakra.
Guess what? If what you're saying is true, then Orochimaru should've been around when they Kyuubi came, as evident with what I posted earlier. So, Orochimaru should've left the village at least 13 years ago when he faught Sarutobi, and still it would be cutting it close.It's spelled out he left over 12 years ago when he kills the 3rd. He says right at the beginning of the fight, in AnimeOne's translation: "It has been ten and a few years since I left the village..." That means at least 12.
Last edited by Munsu; Thu, 02-22-2007 at 11:25 AM.
you know there are months in years.
.noname.silent... I clearly took that into consideration, so read my post carefully.
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