Quote Originally Posted by Munsu
Because English is not my first language and I don't want to waste my time to pick each and every word carefully. Take the general idea, hence why I suggest you take some listening for understanding classes. At the time I thought "should" was the better word to use as I was thinking of the possiblities of counter arguments that could potentially prove my conclusion wrong.
You never explained the context that English is not your first language and just kept saying I was taking things out of context. However you are just pointing out the fact that you were unsure of the definition, not that it was a mistake due to ignorance of of what should and must mean. You knew what should and must mean.

You seem to suggest that you think he can't kill him since you used that as your premise of your conclusion, but you seem to have revised your premise so lets forget about this statement in particular then.
Yes, that's what I think. Yes, that is a premise. I don't, however, deny that it is a possibility. That's deductive.

Now you're simply being stubborn. You gave two premises to conclude that he's the underdog. You said that Naruto could kill Orochimaru and that Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru. How can you possibly say that it has nothing to do with your conclusion? Even with the revised premise, the conclusion is still contingent on Sasuke's ability to kill Orochimaru.

If you conclude that "Sasuke can't kill Orochimaru" with a faulty reasoning (we haven't seen your reasoning for this premise/conclusion) then your whole conclusion is inaccurate, based on the premises used. You expect us to believe your conclusion with premises you apparently pulled out of your ass.
Poor wording on my part. I remember writing that line and deleting it, but I guess I didn't. I thought I rewrote it to say it's not part of my conclusion. I do however go on to say it is a premise. Which means that it indeed has to do with my conclusion.

Finally, something with substance. Would try to counter it later, don't have the energy.
Umm... I already said all that with exception to my addition at the end. I was just repeating myself.

Seemed to me that you threw out any civil discussion we may have with the constant uses of uppercase and with all your look this shit up refferences, when most of the time it was a misunderstanding by both of us in their respective cases.
When I tell people to look up stuff, it's not an insult. I've been a teacher throughout my life in one way or another and I've learned it's better for people to find and figure out answers on their own than me just laying it in front of them. The process and finding and figuring stuff out on your own helps you retain it in memory.

The uppercase is not always used as shouting. I'm not sure how the netiquette on this got corrupted, but I've been using the internet for bulletin boards and chat since before tagging was added. Back then (God I sound old...) we used uppercase for shouting as well as EMPHASIS. I'm emphasising emphasis, not shouting it there. The general rule was if the entire sentence isn't caps, it's not shouting, it's emphasis. I guess I should get in the habit of using bold... I've been criticized for this @ work by n00bs.