We promised to always let each other know if one of us is not satisfied with something..But, she's like, letting everything out right before dumping me. I guess I'm not understanding enough? It was fine..until that very day. it was a shock of my life. Or rather, i just suck.I'll be seeing her and her guy tomorrow due to some unavoidable event. Wish me luck.. =). If i could, i would rather not seeing them anymore. It hurts.
and..what's fish analogy? Sorry for the noobness >.<
<3 Tessa-chan! <3 Lucifus! ....chotto mate.
This is exactly the problem: you two made this agreement, but she obviously didn't keep her part in it or she would have been talking to you about these things way before dumping you. And, if you ask me, this is partially your fault. Communication is crucial to any human relationship (yes, even if it's just sex) and both sides need to make sure the other is comfortable in speaking their mind. She had problems with you, but didn't want to talk to it about with you until they got her to the breaking point. Sometimes you need to press the other side if you feel they're witholding something important from you.Originally Posted by kenren
It's tough man. I still can't figure out how to communicate with people because everyone has a different style and some are more private or vocal, needy or stoic, than others. But it sounds to me like you'd best make communication a priority in your next serious relationship.
don't say that kind of shit! If you think it, you'll start making it reality. Keep your head up and keep rolling with the punches. My fish analogy is somewhere on the earlier pages of this thread; but the bottom line is not to let crap like this get you down, because feeling sorry for yourself or feeling helpless never did anyone any good. Good luck.
Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
The only thing I could tell you guys is that first try to get to know her and try to be friends with her. After that, try to get her. If this random guy jumps on me and try to go out with me, I would be freaked out and I don't want to know anything about him.it mite be helpful if atleast one of the 4 girls that visit these forums were to contribute to this thread.
no offence to you all, but getting advice from a bunch of guys -- who spend thier free time playing games and watching anime no less -- is probably not the best way to solve our women problems
I hope that helped.....
I don't know about that, I've heard many times that my mentality is closer to a female's than a male's, and even though I'm a nerd that seems to hold true. I don't really know what the point of this post is.no offence to you all, but getting advice from a bunch of guys -- who spend thier free time playing games and watching anime no less -- is probably not the best way to solve our women problems
But what gr3atfull says should really be common logic. Nobody wants to be jumped on and confronted in a generally suspicious manner, but hilariously so many fail to realize that. :O
Masa, thanks alot. After reading your post, i somehow, not just partially, felt that most of time I was wrong. How I wish I could stand right in front of her and apologize once more. You opened my eyes. Communication huh? I surely will! Thanks again =)
<3 Tessa-chan! <3 Lucifus! ....chotto mate.
I agree with on that one 100% You should totally be friends with her, but, I don't know about you guys. But being friends with a girl, unless shes ugly(no offense), is kinda hard in my opinion, and honestly kinda a waste of time unless you're going to date her. But just getting to know her enough to date is fine.
Heres the kicker though:
After you break up with her, should you still stay friends? I'd be interested to see what you guys think.
I say no. And it can only get messier towards the next relationship because of the dating past connection you used to have.
That's all I have to say on that
Boys of gotwoot.....I am not going to date you. We can't be friends anymore.
where did that come from?
I don't wanna date you. I just wanted to know peoples opnions on the topic, that's all.
And I just wanted a little bit of advice on how to pursue this girl I really like.
If I offended you in anyway I'm sorry.
I was making a joke...which apparently didn't go over too well. Don't worry, I'm not offended or anything, I just think your view on friendship may be a bit misguided. Having close friendships with people of the opposite gender can be really valuable. Men and women think differently, and often someone else will be able to offer you a perspective you haven't considered before. Being an engineer, I have a LOT of guy friends, many of whom are in long-term relationships. That doesn't mean I value their friendship any less. They're people I really enjoy hanging out with and talking with. Some of them I've seen go through a string of girlfriends, girls who appear briefly and are gone just as quickly. Being a friend though, that's something more lasting, and in a friendship you know that a guy isn't going out of his way to impress you, or act like someone he's not. The guys who are my friends, they're people I trust, people I know I can count on if I need them, and they're just darn cool people in general.
Well, then I misunderstood
I think I see your point. It's not the friendship thats important but what you get out of it in the end. And yo're right I'm misguided. But i don't really know where to turn to anymore. It's not that I just want to go out and date random girls(although that would be fun)
It's just that I really don't get what to do anymore. And I have to go on how to act around woman besides my buddy, is my older sister. I respect woman as much as a feminist. But I'm just afraid that I'll have regrets in my life, if didn't date around while I was still young and nice to look at.
Thanks for the advice
@docdan: I get where you were coming from with the girl friendship thing. From what people tell me, the key to success is seeing women as people first and members of the opposite sex second. By this advice you shouldn't try to start a relationship (any form of interaction with another person, not necessarily a 'Relationship') with a girl, you should start a relationship with a person, and if you mesh maybe it'll turn into a 'Relationship'. This is all conjecture based on hearsay, but maybe it makes sense. Personally I try to avoid associating with anyone that I might consider dating, it makes things simpler.
Well I'm glad to see to see you got what I wanted to say
I didn't want to mislead or anger anyone with my views. I just wanted to voice my opnion of what I think people in their 20's should be doing. Which is in my mind, short passionaite, fun relationships. If it turns into something longer, and you want that, ok fine. But you should make sure that you enjoy each other's physicalness, and keep the flame burning while your young.
And no I'm not the never call her again type or anything. And no I'm also not the type of guy who think girls are just another numbers and points in a game in my life.
DID THOSE KISSES NOT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU YOU HEARTLESS SUCCUBUSSSSSS?!?!11111
@docdan:
"After you break up with her, should you still stay friends? I'd be interested to see what you guys think."
Usually you are more or less forced enemies with an ex for a set period of time due to all the emotions involved. I hated my first gf for 2 years when we broke up but we're best friends now more or less. FUN HOW THINGS GO!
Also, remember, life is all about fun! Don't waste unnecessary time, ever! CHOOSE SEX!
[13:42] <masamuneehs> so wait, aren't you going to tell us about your ex and all that juicy jazz?
[13:42] <Wilik> oh you want to know?
[13:43] <Wilik> alright
[13:43] <Wilik> shes pissed because I havent done the dishes
[13:43] <Wilik> for awhile
[13:43] <Wilik> but I dont feel like I should
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[13:43] <Wilik> as I have purposely not eaten at home for almost a month
[13:43] <Wilik> so she got all pissed off at am
[13:43] <Wilik> me*
[13:44] <Wilik> called me a slob
[13:44] <Wilik> and all kinds of other shit
[13:44] <Wilik> and im like 'its fucking on...'
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[13:44] <Wilik> she basicly told me I will never find someone else because I am to much of a slob
[13:44] <Wilik> and I was like 'FUCK YES ATLEAST I CAN BE HAPPY FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE'
[13:45] <Yukimura> but yet you aren't making the dirty dishes right?
[13:45] <Wilik> no
[13:45] <Wilik> like I said, I havent eaten at home for over a month
[13:45] <Yukimura> did you say that to her?
[13:45] <Wilik> she knows
[13:45] <masamuneehs> well, you can find a girl, but better make sure she never meets your ex
[13:45] <Wilik> lol
[13:45] <Yukimura> but yet she still makes that statement?
[13:45] <Wilik> point is, after that, I ripped into her
[13:46] <Wilik> she ran off and started crying after the 'atleast I can be happy...' comment
[13:46] <Wilik> and then I got really pissed
[13:46] <Wilik> so I went in her room
[13:46] <Wilik> and I was like 'get off your ass, come look at the mess you make and we'll see whos really a slob'
[13:46] <Wilik> she refused
[13:46] <masamuneehs> i'm posting this in the relationship thread, when you're done
[13:47] <masamuneehs> young forum members need to know what to look forward to with relationships
[13:47] <Wilik> so I was like 'fine, i'll do the dishes, fuck i'll even pick up the trash, but this is the LAST time I will do it, DO NOT EVEN FUCKIN HINT I SHOULD IT AGAIN'
[13:47] <Wilik> and I walked away
[13:47] <Wilik> then
[13:47] <Wilik> as I was cleaning
[13:47] <Wilik> I discovered more messes of hers
[13:47] <Wilik> that I was less inclined to pick up
[13:48] <Wilik> so I went back in there and was like 'stop fuckin crying and go clean the bathroom, while you're at it take all your shit out of the livingroom, its a fuckin mess because of you'
[13:48] <Yukimura> was it a trash can full of used tampons and pads?
[13:48] <Wilik> no
[13:48] <Wilik> we have 2 bathrooms
[13:49] <Yukimura> then consider yourself lucky
[13:49] <Wilik> she has her own and I use the 'public' bathroom
[13:49] <Wilik> however
[13:49] <Wilik> she likes to keep her dog in the 'public' bathroom while shes not home
[13:49] <Wilik> and its a huge mess
[13:49] <Wilik> because he pees on the floor
[13:49] <Wilik> and shits all over the place
[13:49] <Wilik> and just in general makes it a big mess
[13:49] <Wilik> and she has failed to clean it in like 2 weeks
[13:50] <Dee-esMon> ugh
[13:50] <Wilik> I live with the fuckin anti-christ of cleanliness
[13:50] <Wilik> and she has the nerve to tell me I am a slob?
[13:50] <masamuneehs> sounds like you two are perfect for each other...
[13:50] <Wilik> fuck that shit
[13:50] <Wilik> I hate her
[13:50] <masamuneehs> do you ever have sex with her still?
[13:51] <Wilik> hrm
[13:51] <Wilik> yes and no
[13:51] <Wilik> we broke up like...
[13:51] <Wilik> almost 2 months ago
[13:51] <Wilik> we've had sex twice since then
[13:51] <Wilik> once was last night
[13:51] <Yukimura> after the fight
[13:51] <Yukimura> ?
[13:51] <Wilik> this fight was an hour ago
[13:51] <Yukimura> oh
[13:51] <masamuneehs> who initiated the sex?
[13:51] <Wilik> she did
[13:52] <Wilik> I was quite happy not fuckin her
[13:52] <Yukimura> maybe she thought they sex was payment for you cleaning things up
[13:52] <Dee-esMon> roflcopter
[13:52] <masamuneehs> and you fell for it, you sucker
[13:52] <Wilik> I didnt care
[13:52] <Wilik> it doesnt alter my feelings for her
[13:52] <Wilik> and its not like she doesnt get anything out of having sex
[13:52] <masamuneehs> you fell for it and so today she was like: "i gave him sex, so i can claim to make him do something for me today"
[13:53] <Wilik> as far as im concerned, she has an orgasim, I have an orgasim, we're even
[13:53] <Wilik> thats the end of that
[13:53] <masamuneehs> but do you think she sees it that way?
[13:53] <Yukimura> i doubt he cares
[13:53] <masamuneehs> oh, and for the record, gloved or ungloved love?
[13:53] <Wilik> for her sake, I hope she does
[13:53] <Wilik> gloved, of course
[13:53] <Wilik> im not stupid
[13:54] <Wilik> as it is, she already tried to say I got her pregnant so I had to go buy a pregnancy test
[13:54] <Yukimura> .....
[13:54] <Yukimura> run away
[13:54] <Dee-esMon> lmao
[13:54] <Yukimura> faster then you are now
[13:54] <masamuneehs> oh the drama of the baby's father's mystery
[13:54] <st33v> wilik's gonna become joker jr
[13:54] <Wilik> I was like 'up till a week ago, I havent had sex with you for over 2 months, if you're pregnant its either god fuckin you or someone else because it sure as hell wasnt me'
[13:55] <Wilik> it was just a scare, she isnt pregnant
[13:55] <Wilik> she just has been under a shit load of stress so she missed a period
[13:55] <Wilik> or had a very very light one
[13:56] <Wilik> anyways
[13:56] <Wilik> now she isnt doing shit
[13:56] <Wilik> she gave her dog a bath
[13:56] <Wilik> in my shower
[13:56] <Wilik> which means she probably fucked it all up
[13:56] <Wilik> and didnt clean the bathroom
[13:57] <Wilik> and didnt pick up her shit
[13:57] <masamuneehs> more fuel for the fire
[13:57] <Wilik> so round 2 will begin soon
[13:57] <masamuneehs> the fire of desire
[13:57] <masamuneehs> desire to kill, and to screw
[13:57] <Wilik> its gonna be the 'fire of living on the street' if she doesnt do the shit I told her to do
[13:58] <Dee-esMon> its your place?
[13:58] <Wilik> yes
[13:58] <masamuneehs> where did it all go wrong wilik? where did it go wrong?
[13:58] <Dee-esMon> kick her the fuck out
[13:58] <Dee-esMon> :P
[13:58] <Dee-esMon> why are you moving out?
[13:58] <Wilik> it all went wrong 4 years ago when I met the bitch
[13:58] <masamuneehs> pft, don't give me that melodrama
[13:59] <Wilik> my lease is up in 2 months Dee-esMon
[13:59] <masamuneehs> there must have been something good there initially
[13:59] <masamuneehs> otherwise you wouldn't be putting up with her now
[13:59] <Wilik> I dont kick her out because I save money having her pay half the bills
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[13:59] <Dee-esMon> ic
[13:59] <Yukimura> so you're moving and letting her do whatever once the lease is up?
[13:59] <Wilik> yep
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[13:59] <Dee-esMon> hah
[13:59] <Yukimura> does she know this?
[13:59] <Spiegel-Dads> hello everyone
[13:59] <Wilik> yes
[14:00] <masamuneehs> yo Spiegs
[14:00] <Wilik> im going to make sure she doesnt try to fuck me over
[14:00] <Wilik> by leaving the place a mess
[14:00] <Wilik> thats about it
[14:00] <Yukimura> lol
[14:00] <Wilik> shes on her own
[14:00] <Wilik> I told her she better find a place by the 1st
[14:00] <masamuneehs> so why'd you let her move in with you?
[14:00] <masamuneehs> to split the rent, truly?
[14:00] <Wilik> because on the 1st im transfering the power to my new apartment and unless she wants to live in the dark...
[14:01] <Wilik> honostly masamuneehs
[14:01] <Wilik> im sure we had something
[14:01] <Wilik> something superficial
[14:01] <Wilik> never anything real
[14:01] <masamuneehs> but it's hard to recall this far down the road also, i'll bet
[14:01] <Wilik> not really
[14:02] <Wilik> im sure the first time I told her I loved her, I truly ment it
[14:02] <masamuneehs> i hate those words. i've only said them to one person, ever
[14:02] <Wilik> but as time went on and I felt like she was corrupting the very meaning of my life, the feelings behind the words faded away and it became just a ritutal
[14:03] <Wilik> and I became the shell of a person
[14:03] <Wilik> now
[14:03] <Wilik> I am rebuilding myself
[14:03] <Wilik> and I dont put up with that shit
[14:03] <Darkflare> we can make you stronger
[14:03] <Darkflare> we have the technology
[14:03] <Wilik> lol
[14:03] <KitKat> http://psychologytoday.com/articles/...-000001&page=1
[14:04] <Yukimura> what is this craziness Kitkat?
[14:04] <KitKat> tis an article relevant to what Wilik is saying
[14:06] <Wilik> I remember once, I asked her to marry me, it was like 3 years ago
[14:06] <Yukimura> hmm, it sounds counter intuitive...
[14:06] <Wilik> thank god that didnt happen
[14:06] <Dee-esMon> lol
[14:06] <Yukimura> but I can't argue with results
[14:06] <Dee-esMon> she wouldve taken half your shit wilik
[14:06] <Dee-esMon> :P
[14:06] <Dee-esMon> if you did
[14:07] <Wilik> fuck that
[14:07] <Yukimura> "A lot of people cohabit because it seems like a good idea to share expenses and have some security and companionship, without a lot of commitment."
[14:07] <Wilik> I would have made her sign a prenup
[14:07] <Yukimura> sound familiar?
[14:07] <Wilik> she has just as much to lose as I do
[14:08] <Wilik> honostly guys, when we moved in together like...
[14:08] <Wilik> a year and a half ago
[14:08] <Wilik> we were fairly happy together
[14:08] <Wilik> we were working on rebuilding our releationship because 3 months prior we had just gotten back together
[14:09] <Wilik> (for those of you that remember the last time I broke up with her)
[14:09] <Wilik> things were different, we were enjoying ourselves and eachother
[14:09] <Wilik> then something happened, im not sure what it was
[14:09] <Wilik> as it didnt happen to me
[14:10] <Wilik> it happened to her
[14:10] <Wilik> about 2 and a half months ago
[14:10] <Wilik> thats when the shit hit the fan persay
[14:10] <Wilik> she gets depressed easily
[14:10] <Wilik> and apparently she got depressed
[14:10] <Wilik> because she doesnt have enough friends or some shit
[14:11] <Wilik> I hate it when people cant stand on their own two feet without a huge army holding them up
[14:11] <Assassin> who needs a friend when you have irc
[14:11] <Wilik> you guys are great at listening, thats for sure :P
[14:11] <Assassin> lol
[14:12] <Assassin> we do what we can
[14:12] <masamuneehs> man i got nothing to say on this
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Humans are different from animals. We must die for a reason. Now is the time for us to regulate ourselves and reclaim our dignity. The one who holds endless potential and displays his strength and kindness to the world. Only mankind has God, a power that allows us to go above and beyond what we are now, a God that we call "possibility".
Seriously, any girl who sees sex as something they "give" should rot in hell. WE give YOU our DICKS you GODDAMN IDIOTS! Correct statement would be "I allowed him to give me sex". But even then it's wrong because sex is something two people do for both peoples' sakes, not something that should be viewed as a gift. I really want to not believe that there actually are people out there who sees sex as some kind of favor within a relationship, but unfortunately I know that morons rule the world and all that.
I love how KitKat interjects with that article and then goes away again once Wilik starts getting emotional and using metaphors to describe his feelings.
That was a really good read though. Bitches is cold.
<@Terra> he told me this, "man actually meeting terra is so fucking big", and he started crying. Then he bought me hot dogs
yeah me too. But she makes a goodpoint, I mean she is a girl after all
@Terra-
Finally someone agrees with me! Thankyou
I think it's important that guys enjoy themselves.Girls should too, but obviously I can only speak from a guys point of view.
My god.....I wish I never stumbled upon this thread.
The future looks bleak.....just saddening.
I havn't seen a single post with the 'live happily ever after' theme. Am I doomed to this faith?
You could still try getting a girl from some other country that's not too westernized, I hear Asians can be less crazy, once you get their parents out of the situation. Or...worst case, try your hand on the other team. Though, celibacy might be a better option depending on your preferences.
Oh and Lucifus did you finish those sigs?
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~40% of all relationships end with divorceMy god.....I wish I never stumbled upon this thread.
The future looks bleak.....just saddening.
I havn't seen a single post with the 'live happily ever after' theme. Am I doomed to this faith?
~60% of all relationships contain unfaithfulness on somebody's part
(can't remember the exact number for divorces)
So in other words yeah. You're doomed, monogamy is a myth and people are whores.
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