xelbair,
thats the strongest evidence for legalizing. Where it is legal, its not really abused by the local population. some people try to say that if it were legal in the US, usage would sky rocket.... i don't think it would go up very much.
xelbair,
thats the strongest evidence for legalizing. Where it is legal, its not really abused by the local population. some people try to say that if it were legal in the US, usage would sky rocket.... i don't think it would go up very much.
I'll be the first to admit that on the basis of harm it does relative to other drugs, including alcohol, there's no reason weed ought to be illegal. Also, I've no doubt that it would "help" the economy with giving the government another way to dip into your pockets yet again and spend the cash on shit you probably don't give a fuck about (btw, if I did smoke weed, that'd be my argument for not legalizing it).
My first reason against legalization is kind of silly in that it's only a "problem" when I'm hanging around people smoking. I can generally up and leave, but the other things happening make it a minor issue I'm willing to deal with. It's when I encounter it randomly while walking in a building, or out of an apartment, or past a bench hidden by trees and bushes while chasing a bunny. The no indoor smoking laws in my state get ignored by the people at a good deal of the places I frequent. Again, I'm not being super bitchy about this, just a little bitchy.
The second reason is...and I hate to sound like a fangirl because I didn't even vote for the guy, is that I kind of don't want Obama's presidency tainted....more than it's already going to be. This may sound stupid, and it probably is stupid, but the last thing I want to hear anyone say is "Change eh? Well good going, the nigger in the office WOULD be the one to legalize drugs."
I thought I'd refresh my knowledge on this, so I dug up some papers about Cannabis.
The effects of weed is comparable to that of alcohol, except chronic use will also lead to:
1) increased risk of psychiatric diseases
2) respiratory diseases associated with smoking
3) subtle forms of cognitive impairment, most particularly of attention and memory
4) modest cardiovascular risks
Also, I'm not sure what the word out there is, but cannabis IS addictive.
After reviewing this, I'm somewhat less against legalising it than I was before. In fact, right now I don't really give a damn what its legal standing is.
If there was a referendum here, my vote would still be a No. I think my main problem with this is that alcohol can be considered a beverage. You can go to the bar and have a drink without wanting to, nor physically getting drunk.
Prove me wrong, but the whole idea people to to smoke weed is to get high on it, is it not?
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Marijuana is a gateway drug. Legalize it and you're going to have an epidemic of hardcore drug abuse on your hands. People need to find better ways to stimulate or depress themselves.
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lol. even though it's actually never been proven to be a gateway drug... that's literally nothing more than anti-marijuana propaganda. people made it up to keep marijuana banned because it was more of a black persons drug. while alcohol, being a white person drug, was made legal..Originally Posted by Animeniax
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Oh here we go with the race card. So marijuana is now a "black man's drug?". What a load of bs. And how do you "prove" marijuana is or is not a gateway drug? Do you hold polls and hope for legitimate responses from some wigged out pothead? The only reason people stop at marijuana is because the harder drugs cost too much.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Or, you know, maybe because most marijuana smokers recognize the much more tangible and severe dangers of the harder drugs and so they choose not to do them. I'm not really sure what exactly makes you think that every pot smoker would take harder stuff if he could afford it.
As for the addiction thing, I'm sure some people do get addicted, but these are the same people incapable of self-control who get themselves addicted to extreme sports/adrenaline, porn, gambling, and videogames. My friend who has access to medical databases told me you need to smoke at least 5grams a day in order to be considered physically addicted to the stuff. I dont know if you guys realize how much that is, but you've got to be pretty god damn hardcore to smoke that much on a daily basis.
heres a pic i found on the webs for comparison
this is 3.5 grams. You need to smoke about 40% more than this every single day in order to be considered addicted
I've yet to meet a single pot-head who smokes that much.
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Yes lets pull race into this because the topic wasn't already controversial enough.
I am personally not for the legalization of marijuana. It's my personal belief that marijuana is not nearly as harmful as many people claim but the last thing we need right now is to add another harmful drug into the long list of addictive substances that are already available.
Deny all you want about marijuana being a gateway drug but the fact of the matter is that many people do not just start smoking stuff crack, quite a significant number of them start out with weed. It's pretty similar to how many people start with light alcohol and eventually move to stronger stuff. That isn't to say that smoking marijuana will automatically incite you to try stronger drugs, but to clearly state that there isn't a relation is also stretching the truth.
I do however believe that we need to decriminalize it, some of the punishment for owning or purchasing marijuana far out weight the "crime" in question.
Edit: I also forgot to mention that certain alcohol like red wine are actually beneficial to your health if it is taken sparingly on a regular basis. I've yet to see any actual positive benefit from getting stoned.
i came home a little bit ago to find my neighbors from downstairs rolling a blunt on the steps leading to my apartment... hopefully he picks up the blunt guts when he's done.
if marijuana were legal, i don't think the gateway drug argument would hold as much water.
if there is better parenting than it will be less of a problem if kids learn about things like moderation.
*just a note, that the people rolling the blunt outside my apartment are black... not that it matters at all. i had a black friend who taught me how to roll blunts and now that I think about it.... that was a long time ago! jesus.... im getting old.*
If marijuana were legal, I would smoke every once in a while, just like how i only drink every once in a while.
Sorry to say Buff, your post is mainly what I talk about when it comes to drug war enthusiasts spreading falsehoods, which isn't surprising since it can be hard to find an unbiased argument on the subject online, at least without some kind of personal agenda. There is some truth, I have smoked almost everyday since I was 18 and it takes a little bit of training to retain my short-term memory, I tend to have to pay more attention to my surroundings than the next guy. On the other hand it really helps me to smoke before a test to alleviate anxiety (I have an awful habit of going blank before I take an exam.)
There is no link whatsoever to cardiovascular problems and respiratory problems are probably equal in tobacco, BUT if you smoke weed out of a vaporizer it filters the tars and toxins and gives you straight THC (which isn't dangerous as opposed to the other possible compounds in your herb) and vaping helps break up the crud in your lungs.
People consider marijuana a gateway drug for a couple of reasons: one is coincidental, there is no cause and effect. There are people who will always grow up to be junkies, and marijuana happens to be the first drug people use (especially when they start young). The other is pot dealers often dabble in other drugs, so if you're going to your man to get some herb and he happens to sell coke on the side, yeah you're going to be exposed to that element of the game. That's all the more reason to legalize, it cuts out a certain portion of the black market and people don't have to be around that sort of thing. The problem is people who don't mind smoking bud but want a different, more sustained high. If you have an addictive personality you're better off not doing anything at all.
There's always an exception to the rule, no alcohol except red wine has any useful properties so it's kind of pointless to make that relation. However cannabis is all that will relieve the pain of many terminally ill patients across the country, and the DEA tried to take that away from them too.
And truthfully I too would rather have it decriminalized than legalized. The shit would be too expensive for me.
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Its legalized here and there is no epidemic whatsoever, people who buy it just smoke it at home or the coffeeshop they got it from, there is also a smoking ban in effect almost everywhere, you can only smoke outdoors here now.
People here got better shit to do then stand around outside and smoke their weed, only people smoking(cigarettes) outside are the ones that are waiting for someone or are one a break from work.
Its the tourists that try the smoke all the weed they can in the least amount of time they can.
Yes but that's the Netherlands and this is the US. We also have problems with crime, obesity, and waste that you can't compete with.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
The "cardiovascular risk" was something taken from my lecture handout, as was all the other points. It wasn't elaborated on however, and I slept through that class anyway, so I can't go any further.
This is pretty much my biggest problem with it.
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Brazilian Man Holds Woman Hostage For 10 Hours... With A Sega Light Gun
lol. Now I understand why they made the NES gun red/orange.
Hilarious article. That woman sure knew what to look out for.
Injured good Samaritan ticketed for jaywalking
Seriously? Saving the lives of people is deserving of a ticket for jaywalking? Not to mention that you almost lost your life in doing so! Sheesh, these policemen are so troubling.DENVER – A good Samaritan who helped push three people out of the path of a pickup truck before being struck and injured has gotten a strange reward for his good deed: A jaywalking ticket.
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This certainly seems absurd, but there's the question of "would the women have been fine if it wasn't for the bus driver's interference?" I guess the ticket is a bit overkill, but if the cop was watching the entire situation, and saw that the answer to the question was "yes", then I can understand how he'd be annoyed.
Nah, it does annoy me when people put themselves in danger and then expect to be considered a hero afterward. The two guys seem to be responsible for putting the old ladies in danger in the first place.
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3 reasons your workouts aren't working
This article was interesting because of the information it contains about the different errors of exercise and how to correct them or take note for future references. What do you think?Your time is valuable, and for each precious moment you put into your workouts, you want to ensure you get the best possible return on your investment. So, are you getting the results you want? If your body isn't as lean or toned as you'd like, it may be that you're committing some key training mistakes, which can sabotage the efforts of even veteran exercisers.
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Very interesting article. I gave it a try slowing down the workout and I definitely feel like I'm getting more of a workout. The problem is time. I work-out at the office during work and I'm usually pressed for time which is why I normally run through the reps.
Also, it's a mental factor that I feel like I've accomplished something just from completing the full number of reps, even if they were rushed and in poor form and I didn't realize maximum gains from the workout. Just knowing that I completed the routine means something. If I did a slow workout and couldn't complete the routine, it would hurt my confidence and ability to continue working out.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
That article is pure gold, the first four reasons in particular. I've actually noticed that I'm getting in better shape than I was in highschool because of the fact that for any body part I'm working out, I have two different workouts. For example, I have two work outs for my biceps that I alternate. One day I do bicep curls, and the next, chin ups. The P90X guys term this type of thing "muscle confusion". The results really do seem to be everything they're clamoring about. I'm considering adding a third work out for certain muscle groups.
Also, I suggest training your muscles in antagonistic pairs. Staying with the above example, if you do a bicep workout, say chin ups, immediately, without break, you should do some kind of tricep exercise, like push ups with your hands placed close to your torso.
Ani: The end of the article is right. Don't focus so much on the number of reps that you do, so much as doing whatever number of reps you do, correctly. The feeling of satisfaction you mentioned is important, but you can get that another way. Spend a day figuring out how many reps you can do properly (i.e. slowly and with good form), and do 70% of those reps in sets. That gives you a goal to achieve, and achieving it will net you both a sense of satisfaction and a superior work out. The number of reps should turn out less than what you're currently doing.
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