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    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/riaa-p2p...news-4098.html

    Woman sued for $80,000 per song downloaded illegally for a total of $1,920,000.

    I think if they wanted people to pay they would at least make the judgement fit the crime.

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    My friend went to college with one of the first guys to get hit by the RIAA. I think he owes them like a billion dollars or something. Anyway, the RIAA already announced that they will stop actively terrorizing torrenters, and switch to a warning system in collaboration with the ISPs. Any open court cases will still be pursued, however, as in the case with that woman.
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    They were warned...

    If you download a song and get sued, but you can prove you purchased the music afterward (but before the lawsuit), can you get the case thrown out? I believe downloading music as a demo is fair use, as long as you buy a legal copy if you actually keep the song and listen to it regularly.


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    If you have a legal copy of anything you download, it's not a crime.

    So would someone care to explain why these people are eating up taxpayer dollars to file a lawsuit with someone who can never afford to pay them? Over 24 songs? The horrible thing here is the state of juries. If someone like me with balls who could think for himself could actually survive the jury selection process, this woman would not have to pay anymore than what she would pay on Itunes for these songs. But a jury decided, even though the minimum fine an illegal file carries is $350, she needs to learn her lesson by paying 80k per file. This doesn't serve any other purpose than for the RIAA to flex its muscles and show America how big its dick is, and the mindless saps who are approved for jury duty are going to swallow the damn beast whole. Seriously? Who in their right mind thinks someone should go bankrupt because they participated in a victimless crime?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Heretic Azazel
    Who in their right mind thinks someone should go bankrupt because they participated in a victimless crime?
    Really, the woman is the victim in this crime.


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    No single raindrop believes it is to blame for causing the flood...

    But ruining the life of this one woman wont even stop a majority of leechers. It really just ruins her life.

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    I wouldn't call it a victimless crime, since it does incur loss for certain parties, but that won't stop me agreeing with your statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
    I wouldn't call it a victimless crime, since it does incur loss for certain parties, but that won't stop me agreeing with your statement.
    On a larger scale I agree it has a negative impact. But in this instance, sharing 24 songs, two albums, that's not hurting anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Heretic Azazel
    On a larger scale I agree it has a negative impact. But in this instance, sharing 24 songs, two albums, that's not hurting anyone.
    No single raindrop believes it is to blame for causing the flood...


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    such a great way to ruin two people's life, RIAA.

    what are the odds they'll keep a normal life? slim, I'm sure.
    who in his right mind will keep a steady paying 'job' (if they have one) just to spend 1.8 million dollars (roughly 20 years of earnings? if they got a good job) to pay to some social jerk.

    I'd become a drunk in the moment I'm out of court, let's see them get anything out of me then.

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    To help prove my point on "piracy" and "illegal downloads" I just went to amazon and bought a cd for $0.01 + $2.98 shipping.

    Downloaded the cd a long time ago, and hey... I like it. So when I own the cd will it make any difference? Is anybody going to split that penny with the RIAA?

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    heck, the punishment for killing someone (in a non-direct way, like selling them rotten food or maltreatment) would have probably been lighter.

    how does that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
    how does that make sense?
    People dying of food poisoning don't have RIAA persecuting the suspects. That's the definite difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn
    i read about some 15 year old kid that's supposed to be sentenced to up to 150 years in prison for killing like, 8 neighborhood cats.
    Wait, that's real? I thought it was just a joke.

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    This is a first that I've seen this. Was that kid mentally ill or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadouku
    This is a first that I've seen this. Was that kid mentally ill or something?
    They say serial killers get their start by killing small animals.


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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090625/...koreas_nuclear

    So... this is a little disturbing to me. I know George Bush is no longer in office but if we pre-emptively attacked a mostly quiet iraq... wtf do we do when N Korea says they're going to nuke us if we attack them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville
    We... proceed to not attack, since we don't want our South Korean allies to get flattened under North Korean artillery (armed with chemical warheads). The same thing we have done since the 1950s.

    If we went to war with North Korea, millions of people would die in the first HOUR.
    I don't think the North Koreans will have the support of the Chinese or Soviets that they had in the past, so it would be less of a stalemate this time. I think Japan and South Korea have had enough of living next to Kim Jong Il and his regime, and may press for US assistance in attacking North Korea.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    I don't think the North Koreans will have the support of the Chinese or Soviets that they had in the past, so it would be less of a stalemate this time. I think Japan and South Korea have had enough of living next to Kim Jong Il and his regime, and may press for US assistance in attacking North Korea.
    Well, South Korea might want to, but they will pretty much have to evacuate the entire country before they can attack. All of South Korea is in range of North Korea's chemical artillery.

    Yes, holding South Korea hostage is a trick North Korea can only do once. But boy, killing multiple millions of people in an hour is a very serious threat, even if they will get walloped afterwards. It's mutually assured destruction, on a small scale.

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    Anyone watching the news atm? Apparently Michael Jackson's been rushed to the hospital: cardiac arrest. Not much details yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman
    Anyone watching the news atm? Apparently Michael Jackson's been rushed to the hospital: cardiac arrest. Not much details yet.
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