Last edited by Buffalobiian; Thu, 06-16-2011 at 07:18 PM.
They have nothing better to do.
Peace.
Indeed. It's not like the rioters would be true fans of the sport or any team in the first place. They simply enjoy the company of their kin and look for excuses to riot and vandalize. It's the same people who infiltrate otherwise peaceful demonstrations and start to break shop windows and throw rocks at the police. Simply because they enjoy barbarism.
I don't know how truthful your statement is. I think they are real fans, since fan is short for fanatic. These folks are fanatically devoted to their team, so when the team lets them down by playing poorly and losing badly, it's an emotional pain that needs an outlet in the form of destruction.
Boston had its police ready for the Bruins fans, win or lose. Guess Vancouver is a little behind on mob control.
My favorite picture from what you posted:
Sorry, I forgot to reply to this. The difference is, blood supplies are a limited resource that relies on literal blood donations from other people. That blood is in short supply in a lot of areas and especially if there's a disaster. So giving it all to one guy just because he can afford it is like letting a murderer go because he is rich.
Last edited by Kraco; Fri, 06-17-2011 at 01:43 AM. Reason: Triple posting.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Maybe you are correct, and it's a question of sheer numbers. Vancouver metropolitan area has over two million people, which might generate enough idiots to turn a part of the city into a war zone. Such numbers aren't present here, explaining why things like this haven't happened anywhere close to me. There have only been a few fools in any city over here and their best efforts would look like children's play at the sandbox compared to these photos from Vancouver.
Unfortunately...this was not the case. They reported on the Thursday national nightly news (NBC) that the Vancouver police found many of the rioters had come prepared. Several people dressed as "fans" had gas masks, containers of gasoline, and other equipment.
They were going to incite and participate in a riot no matter what the outcome of the game was.
No idea, it's one of several pictures taken during the riots posted on that website. If there were more pictures, I'd like to see them. Though it might ruin the magic of that picture, ie, if the girl isn't really that hot except when she's on her back and you can see her panties. I'm shallow that way.
Have any of you checked out the site posted by Ryllharu? Plenty of looting going on, and most of the people involved in the destruction and vandalism have on Canucks jerseys and t-shirts. Sure some of them could be thugs in disguise looking to cause trouble, but it's more likely they are thugs who are also Canuck fans looking to make trouble. Pretty wild stuff.
Last edited by Animeniax; Fri, 06-17-2011 at 09:07 PM.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
What really makes me frusturated about this is that other taxpayers and I have to foot the medical bills of the people who got themselves involved in this disgraceful event. I do understand that many people tried to get out of downtown as fast as they could, but they should have prepared for a loss and a safe ride home (especially how few could have forgotten the riots in Vancouver of 1994).
Here's one thing about being a fan or having a hobby that many people don't realize - you don't have to be around tons of people to enjoy a passion. Instead of going to the allocated outdoor gatherings, people should just stay at home and watch it on their 30"+ LCD/plasma HDTV with or without friends with some drinks bought before the liquor stores closed early. For me, that's the best way to enjoy my entertainment.
Last edited by enkoujin; Thu, 06-16-2011 at 02:14 PM. Reason: Added a bit more to my first paragraph that I didn't notice.
Indeed. I love watching basketball, but I would never watch it live. The view is much better from the tv screen, and I can chat about it while watching and eating great food with my friends.
Peace.
Holy shit i agree with Ani.
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Thanks to mod action, people can't tell what you're agreeing with me about. We'll play it safe and think you like the chick making out on the ground in the picture.
So what's the difference between this and prostitution?Or, my primary idea, was that you would simply pay people to donate blood to you and have some sort of lab screen it all for nasties before using it. That's how I would do it anyway. You pay for you blood, but not by any way that leads to people talking about it in a negative way.
Those articles prove nothing. If you knew the history of Vancouver teams, particularly their hockey team, you'd know they're prone to choking and losing. So the fans were prepared to be disappointed and upset and then to riot, not just to riot.
Last edited by Animeniax; Fri, 06-17-2011 at 09:30 AM.
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
I agreed with Mfauli recently. Maybe this is becoming a trend.
Peace.
I dont understand how losing a game can move people to this. As prophet said: "The IQ of a mob is the IQ of its dumbest member divided by the number of mobsters." I mean, there must be a lot better and more justified reasons to start rioting than this! Its just so roman empire like. Panem et Circenses.
Even though the pictures look quite brutal reading the reports I would assume that this wasnt such a big mess. It could be because police where well prepared, but I have a pathologic distrust for order forces effectiveness. So im guessing that there where just a few hundred of violent guys there and a few thousands of cheering observers.
I have read about way more injuries and property damages than what they reported in what news called "violent movements" or "fights for social/civil/worker rights" not so many years ago. I think that we live too apathetically (what we are sold as peacefully).
P.S: In case there are any doubts. I dont aprove this kind of violence and even less for those motives.
Last edited by Edort4; Fri, 06-17-2011 at 05:25 AM.
The path of excess leads to the tower of wisdom
I agree with you in cases where blood is in short supply. I did not include the following in my post since it's not backed up by anything (and because I have no idea how blood is actually "traded"), but he could have possibly obtained blood using more ethical means.Sorry, I forgot to reply to this. The difference is, blood supplies are a limited resource that relies on literal blood donations from other people. That blood is in short supply in a lot of areas and especially if there's a disaster. So giving it all to one guy just because he can afford it is like letting a murderer go because he is rich.
Using blood near their used-by date (if they have one) in areas where there is an ample supply of blood anyway. (If blood can be purchased in such a way anyway..)
Or, my primary idea, was that you would simply pay people to donate blood to you and have some sort of lab screen it all for nasties before using it. That's how I would do it anyway. You pay for you blood, but not by any way that leads to people talking about it in a negative way.
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Flash bang to the bawls is all you need to know about the riots
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
That is freaking hilarious hahaha
In Canadia, does that constitute police brutality?
“For God will not permit that we shall know what is to come... those who by some sorcery or by some dream might come to pierce the veil that lies so darkly over all that is before them may serve by just that vision to cause that God should wrench the world from its heading and set it upon another course altogether and then where stands the sorcerer? Where the dreamer and his dream?”
Where was the looting? Canadians haven't learned all the American ways yet. Is this Canada's attempt to to come out of the shadow of it's southern neighbor. Is this and attempt to breakout of it's peaceful and neutral image.
It is quite interesting to see this happen in Canada, it has a really low crime rate considering it has 20 million guns to about 10 million families.
note to self, Canadians are sports fanatics.
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It won't - usually police brutality in Canada usually happen on either peaceful protesters from the Toronto G8 of 2010 or on those already peacefully being arrested. It gets very complicated when tasers come into the picture, which makes me wonder, why were tasers not used for riot control? I mean, tear gas and pepper spray is pretty effective, but tasers should have been used.
The looting took place on some trivial street that you probably don't care about. Targets were London Drugs (retail drug store), The Bay (relatively high-end department store), Sears, Bank of Montreal and many other private establishments including jewelry stores and restaurants.Originally Posted by dragonrage
No doubt.Originally Posted by dragonrage
You can expect a minima of 50% up to 70% of people being hockey fans or watchers - extreme or casual.
I also agree with Animeniax of all of his opinions thus far; a lot of people I've been arguing with over Facebook are talking about riots and blaming this all on the anarchists and the barbarians not from the Vancouver area. A lot of the fans try to reason that they were on the good side and everyone would like to think so. It is, indeed, a fact that there were Canuck fans amongst the crowd and that there were Vancouverites who did participate in the riot even though there was some criminal element involved in the crowds.
The city's image is now tarnished even more than before. However, if any good at all came from this, real estate in Vancouver may be cheaper now due to this incident, so it's some good opportunity to make some long-term cash.