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    Quote Originally Posted by enkoujin View Post
    It won't - usually police brutality in Canada usually happen on either peaceful protesters from the Toronto G8 of 2010 or on those already peacefully being arrested. It gets very complicated when tasers come into the picture, which makes me wonder, why were tasers not used for riot control? I mean, tear gas and pepper spray is pretty effective, but tasers should have been used.
    Aren't tasters just a one-use reload thing?

    Seems pretty risky for the police to use that against a giant mob who all seem to be rather violent. I say flashbang works better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Aren't tasters just a one-use reload thing?

    Seems pretty risky for the police to use that against a giant mob who all seem to be rather violent. I say flashbang works better.
    Most models are reloadable, and you only really use them on the unruliest of rioters. Flashbangs are good, but a bit excessive with potential for long term damage (though so is a tazer shock). They should stick to teargas and clubbings. They should also arrest anyone with a gas mask and make it a felony to bring one to a sporting event/mass gathering.


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    Yeah, by one-use reloadable I meant you had to shoot someone, discard the head with the conductive cord, reload a new one, aim and shoot again. It seems so time consuming when you can just tear-gas a mob at once - and as you said, club them.

    I only mentioned flashbang because of the vid.

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    that's some of the happiest rioters i ever saw.
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    Vancouver should invest in an Active Denial System. Millimeter wave "death ray" that makes it feel like your skin is set on fire. Once out of the beam, the effect ends. It's a preferable to things like rubber claymore mines, tear gas, or the Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD), most of which have the potential to cause more permanent damage.

    As we've seen in many countries during the Arab Spring, lethal force against protesters should only be an option if the officier/soldier is being equivalently threatened.

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    The thing I find funny (in a sad way) is how this kind of disturbances tend to end with the same conclussions:

    There was a bunch of anarchists that just wanted to break havoc and took advantage of the mob.
    Its just a bunch of a thousand radical fanatics of the teams that take advantage of the mob to break havoc.
    They should hunt down those people and made em pay for all the destruction.
    Lets make a movement to identify those basterds and make em pay and in the process get some rewards.

    Is something I always see when this kind of things happen, some riot started for sports related issues. I mean why dont they ban the canucks for a few years from those competions, or make em pay as subsidiary, or ban such a dangeorus sport that can make people go crazy.

    They take advantage of those fellings fans have, to sell them merchandise, to sell em very expensive tickets or season passes, they promote rivalry and even "conflict" with advertising campaigns as if matches were wars. And when they go rampage its all their fault.

    The solution to everything is always to spend lots more of money into army, military, defense and some new and innovative forms of reducing human beings to pulp. Lets spend hundreds of millions in crowd control/ repression methods when their savage riots cost a few millinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4 View Post
    ... or ban such a dangeorus sport that can make people go crazy.

    They take advantage of those fellings fans have, to sell them merchandise, to sell em very expensive tickets or season passes, they promote rivalry and even "conflict" with advertising campaigns as if matches were wars. And when they go rampage its all their fault.
    This, I completely disagree with. How is it hockey's fault if the Vancouver fans can't keep their emotions in check? Also, as far as official NHL media coverage and advertising goes before and after the game, they don't try to portray it as a war. Hockey does have a barbarian nature to it (which I personally think should be toned down as the game has much to offer even without all that), but a clear distinction is made between behaviour on and off the rink. Players are expected to be extremely mannered, well-spoken, professional and humble as soon as they step off the ice. It is ONLY when they are on the ice that they are allowed to let loose.

    I dont know what the atmosphere is like in other sports, but when an incident like this happens in hockey, I lay the blame squarely on the fans involved. The team, the NHL, or the media has nothing to do with it.

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    Considering even we have seen good shots of the looters and vandals, there's no doubt the officials have plenty more, not to mention those arrested. They are going to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edort4 View Post
    The solution to everything is always to spend lots more of money into army, military, defense and some new and innovative forms of reducing human beings to pulp. Lets spend hundreds of millions in crowd control/ repression methods when their savage riots cost a few millinions.
    The alternatives are shooting machine guns at them from tanks. See Syria. Innovations in non-lethal weaponry (especially ones that are not gas weapons) is always going to be an improvement. No injuries and no deaths from this kind of chaos is the ideal to strive for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Considering even we have seen good shots of the looters and vandals, there's no doubt the officials have plenty more, not to mention those arrested. They are going to pay.
    Considering how fast the media has been able to find the identity of the "kissing" couple, I would not be surprised if a number of the looters and vandals are already in custody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    Considering how fast the media has been able to find the identity of the "kissing" couple, I would not be surprised if a number of the looters and vandals are already in custody.
    Dammit I knew it, I shouldn't have googled it. Consider the magic ruined, she's not particularly hot and explaining the moment also kills the beauty of it.


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    I want to know who they are but can`t find it. :/
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    Google 'kissing vancouver'.

    Apparently not that many people in Vancouver kiss.
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    Oh, got it, to be honest that guy is very... meh, magic is ruined over here too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire View Post
    Google 'kissing vancouver'.

    Apparently not that many people in Vancouver kiss.

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    I feel sorry for both parties. That couple could very well have been doing nothing wrong, but the police were dealing with people who were violently rioting, so it was just an unfortunate consequence of being stuck in all that madness.

    Plus now they're semi-famous so I guess it worked out.

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    Prosecutors charged Crawford with murder and manslaughter.
    I didn't know they could do did that. So what, it's common practice for police to charge manslaughter and murder at the same time to see what works out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    I didn't know they could do did that. So what, it's common practice for police to charge manslaughter and murder at the same time to see what works out?
    Yes, especially when murder might not stick.
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