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    Peh....how powerful can oro be if he ran away from S-ranked villain club?
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax
    Kabuto is a career follower. He idolizes and worships Orochimaru. Therefore he can't be the best. He needs someone to tell him what to do all the time.
    I think you maybe mean Kimimaro? Or Haku?

    People seem to be forgetting that there was a time when we were led to believe that Kabuto might betray Orochimaru... when he was helpless with his stone-arms, and as Kabuto was questioning the lengths to which Oro was going to acquire Sasuke (jealousy?), the relationship between them was strained. Oro directly addresed this, directly questioning Kabuto about his loyalty. Hell, they even had a cliffhanger (either mid-episode or at the end of one) where Tsunade meets with Oro, supposedly to give him back his power, and Kabuto intervenes against Oro's wishes. Oro turns, snarling at Kabuto's intrusion, and at that point I really believed Kabuto had betrayed him.

    To me, he's one of the less loyal bad guys, as he's actually questioned his master's decision. I don't see how you can put him on the same level as Haku and Kimi, two obsessively loyal followers. I've never seen that much indication that Kabuto 'idealizes' Oro, but he does seem to think it's best to stick with him. I don't think his motivation for doing so has been made clear yet.

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    I've to agree with Masa. It seems to me Kabuto wants something from Oro or expects to gain something by sticking close to him. But it certainly also looks like he fears Orochimaru, more so than idolizes. He's not stupid at all, from what I've seen. In a certain sense Oro is a medical ninja himself, with all the strange body and spirit alterations and techniques he seems to excel at, and thus there's always much in common for him and Kabuto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masamuneehs
    I think you maybe mean Kimimaro? Or Haku?

    People seem to be forgetting that there was a time when we were led to believe that Kabuto might betray Orochimaru... when he was helpless with his stone-arms, and as Kabuto was questioning the lengths to which Oro was going to acquire Sasuke (jealousy?), the relationship between them was strained. Oro directly addresed this, directly questioning Kabuto about his loyalty. Hell, they even had a cliffhanger (either mid-episode or at the end of one) where Tsunade meets with Oro, supposedly to give him back his power, and Kabuto intervenes against Oro's wishes. Oro turns, snarling at Kabuto's intrusion, and at that point I really believed Kabuto had betrayed him.

    To me, he's one of the less loyal bad guys, as he's actually questioned his master's decision.
    Lols....except.....

    After that scene...Oro says,
    "To think you've come this far to betray me at the end.......TSUNADE!!"
    Then talks about how he trusts Kabuto with his whole heart or some junk like that.

    I could've sworn there was another scene too where we were led to question Kabuto's loyalty....he's a pretty interesting character regardless.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    I could've sworn there was another scene too where we were led to question Kabuto's loyalty....he's a pretty interesting character regardless.

    You mean the one where Kabuto draws a scalpel over the unconscious body of Sasuke after Oro told him to kill Sasuke if he( Kabuto) planned on betraying him.

    My favorite bad guy so far was Gaara. His whole unhinged, crazy eyes, I could kill anyone in the room with me at any time persona was great. Anytime he was on screen I was almost expecting him to kill a major character out-of-the-blue. Nobody else gives that sense of not being sure what they'll do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    Lols....except.....

    After that scene...Oro says,
    "To think you've come this far to betray me at the end.......TSUNADE!!"
    Then talks about how he trusts Kabuto with his whole heart or some junk like that.

    I could've sworn there was another scene too where we were led to question Kabuto's loyalty....he's a pretty interesting character regardless.
    well he mentioned it that he though kabuto had betrayed him
    and at that point I really believed Kabuto had betrayed him
    the point that kabuto saved him proves that he really wants to get somethign from orochimaro

    You mean the one where Kabuto draws a scalpel over the unconscious body of Sasuke after Oro told him to kill Sasuke if he( Kabuto) planned on betraying him.
    yes that was the episode where kabuto and orochimaro had little conflict.

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    You guys are going to force me to have to go rewatch that arc to prove you wrong.

    I distinctly remember Kabuto explaining to one of our heroes how he worships Orochimaru and thinks he's the greatest, with this maniacal devoted follower look that you often see with fanatical followers. I'll take a screenshot if I can find it.


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    Akatsuki Leader for sure. He's the leader of the biggest (and supposedly) the strongest criminal group so far in the world of Naruto. God knows what he has up his sleeves...

    Anyway, if Orochimaru tries that mind-transfer technique on the Akatsuki Leader instead of those other weaklings, I'm pretty sure he would be my favourite villian.

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    Ahh yes, that's right.....the whole threatening to kill Sasuke thing....and then Oro actually says "perhaps he will kill sasuke-kun after all."

    That was a weird transaction between the two of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by $0ft*
    well he mentioned it that he though kabuto had betrayed him
    the point that kabuto saved him proves that he really wants to get somethign from orochimaro
    No, during the Tsunade arc, there was not a single point where Oro thought kabuto betrayed him. Not even when kabuto threw the kunai between oro and tsunade.
    10/4/04 - 8/20/07

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
    No, during the Tsunade arc, there was not a single point where Oro thought kabuto betrayed him. Not even when kabuto threw the kunai between oro and tsunade.
    NO I MEAN The dude who said this thing in the first place THOUGHT THAT!

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaFob
    Akatsuki Leader for sure. He's the leader of the biggest (and supposedly) the strongest criminal group so far in the world of Naruto. God knows what he has up his sleeves....
    lol has there been a episode with akatsuki leader(i don't know i haven't seen all yet)?
    Anyway, if Orochimaru tries that mind-transfer technique on the Akatsuki Leader instead of those other weaklings, I'm pretty sure he would be my favourite villian.
    lol... orochimaru wants sasukes body becuse his goal is to get Sharingan, and with that powerful tool he can beat all akatsuki becuse he can obtain mangekujo(spelling) sharingan by killing kabuto(sacrifices...), and after mind-transfer he still has his jutsus and stuff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by $0ft*
    becuse he can obtain mangekujo(spelling) sharingan by killing kabuto(sacrifices...), and after mind-transfer he still has his jutsus and stuff...
    The kill your closest friend requirement, if true, must be connected to some heightened emotions such a thing would cause for it to make any sense at all. Technically speaking killing your friend or your sister or your dad is no different than killing a total stranger, after all.

    And I don't honestly believe Orochimaru would hesitate a fragment of a second to kill Kabuto. He's the kind of guy who considers people either convenient tools (and experimental subjects) or hated enemies bent on hindering his plans. I believe for him to achieve mangekyo he would need to kill either Tsunade or Jiraiya. And that's because once upon the times those two were his friends, and some lingering thread of friendship might still hide in his rotten heart.

    But on the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if he could actually achieve it by other less troublesome means. He's the Master of developing techniques, after all.

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