I'm guessing the fight will probably end by next chapter. Either one of them dies, or they are saved by someone else.
Just out of curiousity, what is lightning's weakness? I don't think it even has one in pokemon? lol.
I'm guessing the fight will probably end by next chapter. Either one of them dies, or they are saved by someone else.
Just out of curiousity, what is lightning's weakness? I don't think it even has one in pokemon? lol.
It's wind. Hence:Originally Posted by Id3aLiStiC
Fireball > Wind Rasengan-Shuriken > Chidori
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
I don't understand how earth is weak to lightning...since when can the dirt be electrocuted? Pokemon had it better.Originally Posted by AssertnFailure
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Nice chapter though.
Now with Deidara facing death, I really hope Tobi steps in since I wanna see what he can do.
LaZie made this...a long time ago.
"It was a very depressing time in my life, since I had no money I was unable to screw the rules" -Kaiba
Everyone insists that deidara will suicide-bomb...but how can you be sure that sasuke can't pull enough chakra to just diffuse it like all of deidara's other bombs?
Deidara already pulled the suicide-bomb feint against Kakash/Gai's teams, so I doubt we'll see it again.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
well, he chidoried himself, which probably hurt him quite a bit, add that to the entire fight (massive sharingan usage, curse seal blowing apart as well as summoning wing-replacment snakes, and the general ass whipping Dei has handed him) and it's quite possible that Sasuke doens't have much chackra left either, I don't think we'll see another chidori from him (if he could have thrown one out, he should have used it instead of just punching Dei).
he defintally can't win against a 2nd akatsuki member now, and i have a hard time believeing sugietsu and juggo can win against one on thier own (at least on thier current level).
I'd like to see a scene with Tobi coming in with slow motion handclaps and says something mysterious to Sasuke or to the snake team, and then goes off with Dei (or kills him and eats out the brains, whatever fits) leaving sasuke not victorious and giving us some new questions about him, the leader and everything else. maybe tie it up with the weird girl from sasuke's team, god knows her name).
as for light-earth, god knows how this works, as far as i'm aware, earth sucks in electricity, which is the exact opposite of weakness, can someone remind of the two circles?
the good one is the circle(y) thing of wood feeds the fire, fire gives birth to metal and stuff, and the bad is the pentgram thing, where wood takes in the water, which covered the flames and co.
but can someone post the exact dinamics?
Regular Sharingan for a Uchiha user takes no or little chakra to use.Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
As for the Earth-Lightning thing, yeah, I'm pretty confused about it as well. My science is really bad, but here's what I think:
First of all, that speed looks really fast (because it's light). Then, the obvious one factored here is the temperature...28,000°C. It can melt everything including the Earth's core made of iron (which is 5000°C). Of course, this fact might be wrong because Wikipedia isn't correct of all the time. Now that is a few thousand feet above us, so we don't feel anything from it. However, if you were to somehow convert it into Naruto version, Sasuke would be able to turn his body or chakra into a miniature-lightning technique that isn't as violent as mentioned on Wikipedia, but similar. Besides, because they weren't on the ground (unless the Clay Bird is accounted for), I guess you can say that Sasuke could have turned his own body into a Chidori so that he could neutralize the clays inside their body?Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Not really sure about this considering it's a bad 5-minute theory I came up with, but that's what I think (which doesn't make any sense, considering lightning is neutralized once it hits the ground).
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning
@BananaFob lightning isn't actually light, but it is the expression of same forces that govern light and it produces light. On that note 45 km/s isn't that fast compared to actual light, which moves ~300,000 km/s
I for one don't think it's healthy to put much thought into the rock-paper-scissors elemental circle. If I remember correctly in Naruto land:
Fire beats Wind beats Lightning beats Earth Beats Water beats Fire
Fire loses to Water loses to Earth loses to Lightning loses to Wind loses to Fire
I think Kishi was going for balance first and reasonablilty second. Many of the reactions don't make sense or would make better sense backwards, but Naruto doens't take place in the real world, it takes place in Naruto world, so our rules only really apply until the author tells us that they don't in his world.
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Despite your reputation on this forum for being biased against Sasuke, i agree that Sasuke is worn out and low on chakra probably. As someone else said before, I dont think using Sharingan alot will make much difference because it takes relatively little to no chakra for a Uchiha to use it. 'Cursed seal' blowing apart? what are you talking about?Originally Posted by Death BOO Z
As for assuming Suigetsu and Juugo cant beat an Akatsuki, we havent even seen their strengths properly yet? Tell me their "current level"
i meant curse seal wings blowing appart sorry,
didn't know i already have a reputation for being biased against Sasuke, does everyone know I also hate Shino and Kiba?
Sasuke also used his sharingan for genjutsu and other moves, which probably take up more chackra than just looking around with it, i don't believe he could fight for this long and still have enough juice for another fight.
for my assumptions on Sugi and Juugi, there's no real evidence of thier strenghts yet, other than the fact that Juugi doesn't always fight (he's got the wussy side of him) and that Suugi is weaker than Sasuke.
Tobi, while acting stupid sometimes, still took out one of the tailed monsters (three tails, if i'm not mistaken) in one strike, and it probably wasn't a cheap ass trick like Hidan zombie circle.
Besides, tobi is an adult akatsuki member, Suugi and Juugi are teenagers who needed Sasuke to bust them out of jail. they need to show out thier skills at least once before they're ready to fight an akatsuki.
In Pokemon isn't it rock/earth?Originally Posted by Id3aLiStiC
I love how these types of battles always end with each side giving a long winded explanation of how they arrived at that point and the strategies they used. Just for once I'd like to see:
"But.... how did you know? :O "
"Not telling, STFU."
A suicide bomb is sooo obvious next chapter.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
For naruto it's wind. For pokemon it's ground but is also weak to grass. Saying that, it's really weird how lightning is strong against earth, I don't see the logic behind it. It seems in Naruto the weaknesses are opposite to that of pokemon. Then again I can't see how wind is strong against lightning. Lightning should just go straight down and cut through wind. Confusion!!!Originally Posted by Id3aLiStiC
Back on topic, Cool chapter again, it's strange now, I still don't really like deidara that much. Sure he's done some clever tricks with explosions but I've seen better tactics to use from other animes. Sasuke really did have a hard time against Deidara which surpised me. This fight says to me that Deidara probably could've beaten Orochimaru now if they had to fight each other. Heck I think even Sasori could've won since Deidara was his subordinate and you can't genjutsu a puppet. Interesting fight, can't wait to see next weeks one now. It'll either end up like Yuyu Hakusho or Tobi will step in and interfere and maybe we get to see some action from the other members of Team Snake![]()