Naruto Chapter 361

[JaySee]

Well just to add fire to this small tangent about the MS, The manga (ch 257 pgs 8-9) kakashi says that the MS screws up your eyesight. So read it. I dont know why this is even being debated b/c it is extremely clear. Also kakashi has a MS so why wouldn't he be right.
Anyways I cant wait for this fight to be over. Its about time that somebody should win. I wanna see shino get some screen time.

This right here clears up the stupid metaphor nonsense. It's not a metaphor! He clearly says it's a risk to his eyes before the so-called metaphor. MS hurts your eyes.

[mage]

What the hell are you people talking about? There is no logic in any of your arguments.

[JaySee]

From Inane Scanlation Ch. 257 pg. 8
Kakashi: Besides the fact that it requires a considerable amount of chakra, it also presents a great risk to your eyes as well doesn't it... Itachi.

Nevermind the bad punctuation. This right here says it hurts your eyes.

From Inane Scanlation Ch. 257 pg. 9
Kakashi: How far has... "plink" your eyesight deteriorated?

NOT A DAMN METAPHOR!!!

[Assertn]

Nope....terribly insufficient as proof.

Conversely, let's think of it this way:

1) Kakashi says MS takes a toll on the user.
2) Itachi is impressed by Kakashi's observation.
3) Kakashi asks how bad Itachi's eyesight has become.
4) Itachi freaks out.

Now, if we were to assume that JaySee was right, then #3 does not present anything that #1 doesn't present, right? So why would Itachi's #4 be so dramatically different from #2? It just doesn't make any sense!

However, if we consider #3 to be metaphorical in that it implies Itachi has failed to observe something important, then it does become new information, which justifies the drastically different #4 response.

In addition to this, I find that the confirmation that Kakashi does, in fact, have MS when he used it on Deidara further supports my point, because it allowed us to know with absolute certainty that #4 was a foreshadowing to Kakashi's new ability. With that said, where does the connection exist between #4 and Kakashi accusing Itachi of going blind?

Sometimes I think you guys need to take some basic courses in literary techniques.

[JaySee]

Hmm... maybe because... #1 is in the form of a QUESTION. Hence my comment about bad punctuation. Itachi believes he is being asked. #3 is where Kakashi is revealing he already knows the answer. Looks like you need to learn basic reading comprehension before jumping to literary techniques.

[Assertn]

Hmm... maybe because... #1 is in the form of a QUESTION. Hence my comment about bad punctuation. Itachi believes he is being asked. #3 is where Kakashi is revealing he already knows the answer. Looks like you need to learn basic reading comprehension before jumping to literary techniques.

Um....what? Here I actually come up with probably the most micro-analyzed interpretation of the exchange and you reply with this nonsense?
I feel like I'm wasting my time here.

Animus, you seem halfway there to make some sort of rational counter-argument, right? Care to challenge my post?

[JaySee]

Um....what?

EXACTLY... go back and take some reading comprehension.

If you had some basic understanding, you'd get that #3 reveals a lot #1 DID NOT. Hence the reaction difference between #2 and #4. It doesn't make any sense to you because you either have bad reading comprehension, or no common sense.